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Old 17-10-07, 10:31 AM   #1
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Obesity 'not individuals' fault'

It is said we live in an 'obesogenic' environment

Individuals can no longer be held responsible for obesity so government must act to stop Britain "sleepwalking" into a crisis, a report has concluded.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7047244.stm
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Old 17-10-07, 10:31 AM   #2
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That fish finger burger looks mmmmmmmm
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Old 17-10-07, 10:34 AM   #3
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OMG..just wait until FS sees this!
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Old 17-10-07, 10:48 AM   #4
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I'm not overweight I'm just too short for my size.
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Old 17-10-07, 10:54 AM   #5
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Mmmmmmm hungry now! time for a super sized burger!
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Old 17-10-07, 11:14 AM   #6
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I have many a non PC comment to make on this subject but await permission before proceeding.

P.S. Dont anybody be coming around here telling me it's not their fault it's their glands/hormones or past pregnancy as excuses to condone it.
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Old 17-10-07, 12:27 PM   #7
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I have many a non PC comment to make on this subject but await permission before proceeding.
Go for it, As long as its on subject and non of the forum guidelines at the top of IB are broken then I dont have a problem with it.

I think half the things that are wrong with this country is because people dont feel able to say what they mean, as it breaks all this PC mumbo jumbo that we've got tangled up in.
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Old 17-10-07, 12:38 PM   #8
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Old 17-10-07, 12:44 PM   #9
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I think it's the government's fault I'm so lazy, and I'm going to jolly well sit here until they do something about it!
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Old 17-10-07, 01:36 PM   #10
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Ok firstly I am not wicked enough to condemn those people that suffer from obesity due to any manner of health problems. Health problems as a result of obesity, is very diffeent though. The majority of cases…and I am talking about the real tubbers out there,( not just those who nowadays carry a few extra pounds around.) are a creation of their own decision making, lack of imagination and frankly bone idleness.

I grew up right next door to a whole family of tubbers. The parents and the two sons,( who were each within a year of my age). Lovely people but goodness they were a sight. Now were as I was out running around playing football, rugby or practising martial arts my neighbours sons would consider the walk to school and back,( less than 2 mile round trip) more than enough exercise thank you very much.

Now all that was before internet and before computer games provided in house entertainment for people. They were simply content to gorge on food and sit in front of the TV:

Personally I find the sight of “grossly” overweight people disgusting. Those that know me will draw my attention to an approaching overweight female,(have you noticed they so often wear those tight leggings and their thighs roll over each other as they waddle along?) knowing that when I spot her I will recoil at the vision.

These people are costing the economy of the UK 7 billion pounds sterling per year! That is an official estimate for extra health care, benefits, time off work and production losses, plus they so often can’t even hold a job etc etc.

But don’t think you are not subsidising them already apart from your salary deductions. If you are an average sized person you will pay the same for say a pair of trousers waist size 34 as old tuber does for his of size 52 waist…so you see how your subsidising? Your paying more in true terms for yours. If you think about it there must be other examples of tubber getting a better deal than you?

These people need a slap awake. Benefits? If they are on benefits due to the fact they have other ailments due to their obesity, stop the benefits. This includes unemployment benefit if they are unable to secure work due to their size. Make them attend fitness for life classes were diet and exercise programmes can be designed for each individual. They should be made to get down to around no more than 2 stone above their ideal weight for height before the benefit system considers them again. They should be weighed every time they attend for signing on and if an upward trend in weight can be seen then a warning of benefit withdrawal made.

Of course we cannot now remove the safety net for those already on benefits but methods should be used to educate and wean them off surely? A campaign must be launched to show people that obesity unless proven to be as a result of a medical condition will no longer be treated sympathetically by the state and so that from “X” date anyone requiring assistance due to their own self inflicted obesity will not receive benefits. Remove that for them and I am sure a different attitude will begin to prevail.

Thus education would be shared with those in gainful employment as God forbid they become unemployed and they have been living a life of excess then they also will not receive benefits.

Simple formula:

Over eating + Lack of exercise = Obesity + additional health problems.

I do not go along with the fact that it is the fault of the “fast and ready made foods” eating even half healthily can cost way less than a lot of that crap anyway. Decisions again you see? Healthy foods can be abused by over use of course but again it is all about decision making.

Hell we all suffer from fluctuations in our weight from time to time, but fluctuations are not the problem here. This is excessive animal like behaviour which should not be pampered by the state. What stops one persons fluctuation in weight from becoming a case of gross obesity? Decision making……I need to do something about this.

There are many on this forum who work hard to earn a crust and ideally would just crash with their feet up at the end of a working day. But many go running, attend gym sessions, cycle or hike to help keep trim and healthy. decision making once again.

Thank you for allowing to vent on this topic.
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