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19-11-10, 01:32 PM | #1 | |
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Linux experts please
OK, I am on holiday, this has arrived from our European build specialist
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so build B is ok with a app A but crashes the whole system with app B. I thought linux was supposed to be app friendly. this sounds very windows like. Anyone running Abaqus and Ansys with a quattro 4800 graphic card?
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19-11-10, 02:10 PM | #2 |
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Re: Linux experts please
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Cant help beyond that - other than to say I think that the nVidia support is still better than the ATI support (its why I tend to buy nVidia) Also I don't go anywhere near DeadRat Linux, so don't know how up to date the nVidia drivers would be, tho I know the ones on Ubuntu were fine the last time I tried them. Sorry to not be of much use - my suggestion, try an install on an Ubuntu 10.10 machine and see if it all works then - I suggest 10.10 as it is the most up to date, so is more likely to have better nVidia drivers than 10.4LTS (which I would have recommended if this was a "switch to Ubuntu totally" reply, with it being an LTS release). That way you may be able to point the finger at the Driver more readily, and get RedHat to do something about it (I assume the reason they use RedHat is for the Paid Support...)
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19-11-10, 03:27 PM | #4 |
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Re: Linux experts please
I too am not a redhat user, I'm into Arch, which I install drivers from source onto...this may be the only option for you on Redhat to be fair...but to do that you'd need some pointers from a redhat guru IMHO, search Fedora forum sites for help I'd say.
The linux drivers are available from the NVidia site, and I would expect them to be newer than what is RPM packaged for RH...especially for RHEL 5.4 Another idea...in Ubuntu there are what's know as backports, basically newer packages made available to older OS versions...if there is something similar you can utilise with RH you may find newer drivers. Ultimately though I think there is RHEL 6 now which will have far newer kernel versions that 5.4 and will therefore support far newer NVidia drivers. Maybe that's the best option. So options from my point of view are: 1) RHEL 6 available? Try using it rather than 5.4 maybe? 2) Backports equivalent in RH to provide more newer drivers to you 3) Build drivers from source, will require NVidia driver download and all dependancies to be setup for a build of the binaries/package for installation - RH Guru required Hope that helps |
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I suppose you think Curvys are the way forwards too Hehe
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19-11-10, 04:14 PM | #6 |
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no not that bad
Just geeky bad, I can also install binaries like you deb and rpm package (ab)users... Bad choice of words "source" anyway as Nvidia drivers are closed source so it's only the distro packaging that needs doing really <geekspeak> Drivers get installed through a PKGBUILD from the Arch User Repository (AUR), this details the source files, build operations etc and creates a package on the fly for me, it allows me to have the latest and greatest when I want from Nvidia direct... here's the PKGBUILD for nvidia-all: Code:
pkgname=nvidia-all pkgver=260.19.21 pkgrel=1 pkgdesc="NVIDIA drivers. Builds modules for all kernels detected on system." arch=('i686' 'x86_64') _kernver=`uname -r` ARCH="x86" [ "$CARCH" = "x86_64" ] && ARCH="x86_64" provides=('nvidia') url="http://www.nvidia.com/" depends=('kernel26' 'kernel26-headers' 'nvidia-utils') conflicts=('nvidia-71xx' 'nvidia-96xx' 'nvidia-173xx' 'nvidia-legacy' 'nvidia-beta' 'nvidia') license=('custom') install="nvidia.install" source=("ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-$ARCH/${pkgver}/NVIDIA-Linux-$ARCH-${pkgver}.run") md5sums=('2ec917f51e752802646920e9bcd747e7') # i686 package [ "$CARCH" = "x86_64" ] && md5sums=('7a3cb014baa50184a6f9e7695c8fea1b') # x86_64 package build() { # Extract the nvidia drivers cd "$startdir/src/" sh "NVIDIA-Linux-${ARCH}-${pkgver}.run" --extract-only cd "NVIDIA-Linux-${ARCH}-${pkgver}" cd kernel ln -s 'Makefile.kbuild' Makefile msg 'Building the kernel module...' # Loop through all detected kernels for _kernver in `file /boot/* | grep 'Linux kernel.*boot executable' | grep 'vmlinuz' | sed 's|.*version \([^ ]\+\).*|\1|'`; do msg2 "Building module for $_kernver..." make SYSSRC=/lib/modules/${_kernver}/build module # Install kernel module mkdir -p "$startdir/pkg/lib/modules/${_kernver}/kernel/drivers/video/" install -m644 nvidia.ko "$startdir/pkg/lib/modules/${_kernver}/kernel/drivers/video/" done } </geekspeak> Last edited by kaivalagi; 19-11-10 at 04:23 PM. |
19-11-10, 08:10 PM | #7 |
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Linux as user friendly as ever lol
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19-11-10, 09:20 PM | #8 |
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Linux it whatever you want it to be and user friendly most of the time
If you are referring to the graphics card problem, I could sort it (and so should an IT support department!) if given enough time and if the machine was put in front of me but trying to solve an issue like this through a bike forum is kinder difficult...it's probably the fact that the OS version is fairly old and/or that the drivers available are too old to support all the features required properly...if it were any windows platform then the latest drivers would be installed but then that's the manufacturers for you only caring for windows users in general...windows drives the industry, if it were Linux in the driving seat windows would have the user friendly issues...I'll still go with the "rock solid when setup correctly" OS The above PKGBUILD does give a tech savvy person the building blocks of a build process that works...but the dependencies for tools and linux kernel sources will no doubt bite anyone who isn't in the know See what you started, and I kinda proved your point Last edited by kaivalagi; 19-11-10 at 09:55 PM. |
19-11-10, 10:51 PM | #9 |
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Re: Linux experts please
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I'm rather more SLES and not used RHEL in a long while but still. Does RHEL 5.5 work? Are you using 32bit or 64bit versions? (there is an issue with memory mapping on the 32bit versions with >4Gb RAM). What actual drivers (and versions) are in use, nvidia or nouveau? Druid
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Wot?
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