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Old 03-03-08, 01:38 PM   #1
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Default Softly Softly - Spring rates

I have a 2001 SV 650

I have some forks from a 2001 600 bandit (I believe).

How can the bandit only have 0.45kg/mm springs? SV has 0.7kg/mm

http://www.racetech.com/evalving/menu/searchstreet.asp

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Old 03-03-08, 03:22 PM   #2
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Oh and an SV is 165kg Dry

A 2001 bandit is 208kg dry ...

The bandit fork tubes are 31mm longer ...
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Old 03-03-08, 04:46 PM   #3
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Hello ... anyone there?!!?

Look, the more I think about it, the more something isn't right -

So lets look at it another way; If you can generate enough grip from the front, you should be able to generate about 0.9g of braking effort. At that point, the back wheel is lightly touching the ground, so 90% of the weight is transfered to the front. If the bike and rider weighs 300KGs, the front forks are supporting 150 * 0.9 each, or 135KGs. At a rate of 0.454KGs/mm, that will compress the forks by 297mm, or nearly a foot!

If the forks have 6" of travel, they would bottom out at a braking force of 0.45g, which is naff-all.

This is with a ~200kgs fuelled up bike and ~100kgs of rider. We all know that most bandit riders are well in excess of 180Kgs...
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Old 03-03-08, 05:11 PM   #4
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wha!
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Old 03-03-08, 05:26 PM   #5
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Sounds like the spring rate info is wrong tbh, or there's some other relevant data missing.
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Old 03-03-08, 07:17 PM   #6
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Sounds like the spring rate info is wrong tbh, or there's some other relevant data missing.
They are progressive springs in there as standard ... I wonder if the .45 is the initial rate?

What confuses matters further is when you put in a rider weight in the calculator/s
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Old 03-03-08, 08:03 PM   #7
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They are progressive springs in there as standard ... I wonder if the .45 is the initial rate?
Well if it's progressive then it certainly isn't the whole rate

That said, SV springs are progressive either. At least I seem to remember the pointy ones are.

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Old 03-03-08, 08:09 PM   #8
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Well if it's progressive then it certainly isn't the whole rate

That said, SV springs are progressive either. At least I seem to remember the pointy ones are.
I'd expect 2 rates to be given for a progressive else it is meaningless!!! ... but perhaps I expect too much!?!

Dunno about pointy, but the stock curvys are NOT progressive ...
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Old 04-03-08, 09:42 AM   #9
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Slung the bandit forks in my road bike this am ... who wants to know the results?!?!?
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Old 04-03-08, 10:17 AM   #10
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ok, tell us all
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