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Old 27-04-10, 09:34 AM   #1
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I have a CBR 600 F Sport 2002. It used to be easy, I rented a house, which had a garage which I kept my bike in.... However, I decided to buy a house, which is a terrace house.
I have attached a few pics to show what I've got to work with!

At the moment I have a simple oxford chain and a lock for it, along with an old-school D-Lock. Which was fine when it was in a garage and that.

However, since it’ll now be more visible, parked on the area in front of my house, I’ve chosen to upgrade and do what I can.

I’ve definitely chosen to go with an Almax III 1.5m chain & Squire lock. I just need to find a suitable ground anchor too. Will one of the bolt/screw in ones be good enough, or do I really need to go to the extreme of a concrete sunken Y-anchor?

This is what I was thinking of going for.
Almax Immobiliser III + Squire SS65CS Lock + Hardie Ground Anchor
or
Almax Imobiliser III + Squire SS65CS Lock + Defiant Ground Anchor

And then pick up one of the xena disk locks with alarm. I haven’t picked which one yet.

I was basically after any advice, I know the chain and lock are sound choices. It was probably more around the Ground anchor mainly and disk lock choice that I was more unsure.

Cheers,
David
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Old 27-04-10, 09:43 AM   #2
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for that sort of cash id be looking at a tatchem rated alarm to supliment what you have
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Old 27-04-10, 11:00 AM   #3
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I have a similar situation, although slightly more room in my front yard. Have a toughened U plate bolted to wall of house (expanding bolts), with ball bearings smashed into heads of hex bolts to hinder removal. Massive chain lock between plate and bike. However, until someone tries to nick it I will never know if thats enough. A ratty looking old cover is a must - if the tea leaves can't see what it is, and it appears that it may be old and crap anyway, they are less likely to try and take it - if you must have a sheepskin lined luxury cover, I would put a crappy old one on top. Bear in mind, if someone REALLY wants it and are properly tooled up they will overcome most obstacles. The best you can do is deter everyone else. Alarm probably a good idea, I can't be botherd. On a final note, I have a similar 'over the kerb, through the gate' into my yard - at some point you WILL scrape a wing mirror or bar end, even when being super careful. If you are fanatical about dings and scratches (I am not), perhaps some gaffer tape on the edge of mirrors/bar ends or any other sticky out bit (obviously not the exhaust, though!).
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Old 27-04-10, 11:03 AM   #4
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Dont pay a fotune for a y anchor. Make one, its not the metal of the ancor which provides the protection its the fact its sunken into concrete.

You'll need a sthill saw to get through the existing stuff but you can hire them for around £40 quid for a weekend. Then make the anchor from drainpipe and a broom handle, dead simple takes less than an hour to make. Sink that in and spend the money you save on petrol
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Old 27-04-10, 11:06 AM   #5
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have you tried parking your bike their first? can you actually get it in and out?
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Old 27-04-10, 11:27 AM   #6
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i would defo try go for concrete in anchor, and like Dave says get a proper alarm the xena disk lock alarms are good little locks but outside when it gets windy they can be a pain the **** . allways going off , mind you a fitted alarm is just as bad hahaha .... but seriously in winter when it gets real windy the disk lock alarms can be a pain .

I went for the Almax IV ... with squire lock and one of these
http://www.elitesecuritysupplies.com/ground_anchors.htm
the one near the bottom

Concave Built In Ground Anchor

Product code 541

Sold Secure Gold Approved product

  • Fits chain upto 19mm
  • Unique design / Engineered Anchor
  • Flush Fitting Built in Anchor
  • Nothing to trip over
  • Drainage hole/soak away pipe
  • Ideal for garages or hardstandings
  • Totally bolt cropper resistant
  • Made in Britain.
  • THIS PRODUCT CANNOT BE CUT USING OXYACETYLENE CUTTING EQUIPMENT OR ANGLE GRINDERS
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Old 27-04-10, 11:45 AM   #7
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Big fan of bike covers here. Went outside yesterday and bumped into my next door neighbour who asked where my bike was (I was carrying my lid at the time).

My bikes been parked in the same place for the last 3 months with a cover on and he'd never even noticed it before. Out of sight, out of mind. Wasn't until then that it struck home how much a security feature a scrappy cover is (and it stops you getting a wet **** in the morning).

In my mind, hiding it and attaching it to something immovable prevent a lot of potential trouble / spur of the moment thievery/vandalism. As has been said though, if someone really wants to nick it, they probably can.
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Old 27-04-10, 11:48 AM   #8
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Agree with above, the concreted ones are better.....however, I have one of these.....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=310201306721

The trick is positioning it under the bike. Currently, I have this, two chains (granted not Almax as can't afford them). Then have a xena disc lock alarm. A full factory fitted alarm. There is a cover over the lot, which is positioned in such a way that the chains / ground anchor can't be viewed. I have then over time, got to know my neighbours and some work from home. They all have my details and if the alarm goes off, will notify me (yes there is a chance they will go out etc).

To remove said anchor, as live in a rented appartment, then I have access to a "Kango" and will simply remove the lot, refill and scree over the top. What stops a theif from doing this?!?!?! The fact that the bike needs to be removed to do so.

If the cover is removed - the alarm blares out.
If the chains are played with - the alarm sounds.
etc etc.

The key is stopping the kids / chavs / pikeys.....who I believe (don't quote me on this) probably represent the majority of opportunistic bike thefts. It will also persuade profesionals to not bother and seek out other prey.

Personally, if you have the money, get which ever ground anchor you feel would be best. The weak point is usually the chain, but you are sorting that by getting the best make of chain. But I would get an alarm fitted. A lot of people moan about them etc, as can cause problems......but if parking outide they are invaluable.....

Finally, get to know well a neighbour who is there most of the time.....retired folk would be best!!!! lol. Then providing you are happy they are semi-trustworthy, get them to call you if they ever hear it all go off. (Just make sure you don't befreind a hard of hearing elderly person!!!!!!).
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Old 27-04-10, 11:48 AM   #9
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+ 1 with the bike cover thing but I just presume every one that keeps there bike outside keeps it covered up ? well in this contry anyway lol ....
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Old 27-04-10, 12:01 PM   #10
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You would have thought so, but I see a couple of uncovered bikes chained outside terraced houses on my way in to work in the early morning, makes me wonder....
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