SV650.org - SV650 & Gladius 650 Forum



SV Talk, Tuning & Tweaking Discussion and chat on all topics and technical stuff related to the SV650 and SV1000
Need Help: Try Searching before posting

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 26-11-11, 08:12 PM   #1
MotorPsych
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Question Inverted forks vs regular forks

Hi all,

I am looking for pros and cons of inverted forks - and also would like to learn how would inverted gixxer forks swap on SV650 benefit the SV's ride? By the way, I have a K6 pointy.

My intent is to put a compiled list of my findings (from this forum and other places) out for others like me who might have the same question.

Cheers
  Reply With Quote
Old 26-11-11, 08:59 PM   #2
Stuuk1
Member
 
Stuuk1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Tunbridge Wells
Posts: 494
Default

Having riden on both types, I have no idea what the difference is.

I wouldn't even know what differences I would be looking for..

Perhaps I don't ride enough?

It's gets me from A-B... Perhaps I don't care.

I understand this doesn't help you in any way... Sorry


---
I am here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=51.192294,0.725658
Member of the 1 litre club...
__________________
RIP Reeder 20/07/1988 - 21/03/2012
Stuuk1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-11-11, 10:14 PM   #3
suzukigt380paul
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Inverted forks vs regular forks

apparently sv forks are crap(not my words but you owners) so every one replaces them with usd forks, but in all
honesty most people wont notice the difference between a good pair of right way up forks compared to usd forks,
and a lot of the time people change them more for bling than handling
  Reply With Quote
Old 26-11-11, 11:06 PM   #4
NTECUK
Member
Mega Poster
 
NTECUK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: essex
Posts: 5,314
Default Re: Inverted forks vs regular forks

The original thought behind USD was that they flex less under breaking and loads .
__________________
Raisin cookies that look like chocolate chip cookies are the reason I have trust issues.
NTECUK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-11-11, 11:08 PM   #5
Bagpuss
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Inverted forks vs regular forks

Unsprung weight is less on USD forks.
  Reply With Quote
Old 26-11-11, 11:45 PM   #6
davegixer1300r
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Inverted forks vs regular forks

yep all to do with unsprung weight.
  Reply With Quote
Old 26-11-11, 11:45 PM   #7
Searley
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Inverted forks vs regular forks

Quote:
Originally Posted by MotorPsych View Post
Hi all,

I am looking for pros and cons of inverted forks - and also would like to learn how would inverted gixxer forks swap on SV650 benefit the SV's ride? By the way, I have a K6 pointy.

My intent is to put a compiled list of my findings (from this forum and other places) out for others like me who might have the same question.

Cheers
Hi Mate

Assuming both forks are of equal quality, there would be no difference in suspension performance. But forks on a motorcycle are an structural part of the chassis and this is where USD (inverted) forks have an advantage over regular forks.

During hard corning and more so under heavy braking forks have to deal with extreme load, this load is usually concentrated near the bottom yoke and can cause a slight flex in the fork. USD forks bolt to the yokes with the thicker part of the forks (the leg) and therefore offer greater rigidity and more resistance to flex. This can also provide better feedback and generate more confidence for the rider.

But you would only notice the difference if you were riding extremely hard, probably on a track.

The only other benefit of using USD forks from a GSXR would be so that you could use the GSXR radial brakes which provide much better stopping power.
  Reply With Quote
Old 27-11-11, 04:55 AM   #8
MotorPsych
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Inverted forks vs regular forks

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuuk1 View Post
Having riden on both types, I have no idea what the difference is.

I wouldn't even know what differences I would be looking for..

Perhaps I don't ride enough?

It's gets me from A-B... Perhaps I don't care.

I understand this doesn't help you in any way... Sorry


---
I am here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=51.192294,0.725658
Member of the 1 litre club...
Still helps Stuuk1 - at least it tells me that in normal road riding there isnt any difference....
  Reply With Quote
Old 27-11-11, 06:34 AM   #9
MotorPsych
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Inverted forks vs regular forks

Quote:
Originally Posted by Searley View Post
Hi Mate


During hard corning and more so under heavy braking forks have to deal with extreme load, this load is usually concentrated near the bottom yoke and can cause a slight flex in the fork. USD forks bolt to the yokes with the thicker part of the forks (the leg) and therefore offer greater rigidity and more resistance to flex. This can also provide better feedback and generate more confidence for the rider.

But you would only notice the difference if you were riding extremely hard, probably on a track.

The only other benefit of using USD forks from a GSXR would be so that you could use the GSXR radial brakes which provide much better stopping power.
Thanks Searley; that makes perfect sense....

As for the rest of sv650ers, keep those comments coming about inverted forks....

Last edited by MotorPsych; 27-11-11 at 06:41 AM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 27-11-11, 09:40 AM   #10
Sid Squid
No, I don't lend tools.
Mega Poster
 
Sid Squid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Skunk Works, Nth London
Posts: 8,680
Default Re: Inverted forks vs regular forks

In theory USD forks are stiffer than RWU, in practice the difference is hard to detect in anything other than racing circumstances, and even then only when put to a proper test by somebody truly capable.

On an SV the advantage is that most - but not by any means all - USD forks are simply better and more finely constructed pieces of suspension technology, any extra torsional stiffness they may have is unlikely to be discovered when bolted to an SV used on the road.

Unsprung weight: I haven't found a USD road fork where the unsprung weight is lower, none of the commonly used front ends that end up on SVs are anyway. Unless you know of one I haven't been able to find of course.
Bear in mind the slider - the major unsprung part - of a RWU fork is aluminium, the slider of a USD fork is steel. I suspect that spiffy-squillion-qiud race forks are made of some unobtanium alloy or pixie dust or something - but I haven't, unsurprisngly, had the opportunity to weigh any of those.
__________________
If an SV650 has a flat tyre in the forest and no-one is there to blow it up, how long will it be 'til someone posts that the reg/rec is duff and the world will end unless a CBR unit is fitted? A little bit of knowledge = a dangerous thing.

"a deathless anthem of nuclear-strength romantic angst"
Sid Squid is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
enduro forks/ road forks davepreston Bikes - Talk & Issues 4 24-03-11 06:55 PM
USD GSXR1000 k1 forks | standed forks - curvy Nicky S SV Talk, Tuning & Tweaking 113 07-09-09 01:12 PM
New forks yorkie_chris SV Talk, Tuning & Tweaking 169 31-12-08 04:26 PM
SV 650 frt. forks XFACTOR SV Talk, Tuning & Tweaking 5 30-11-08 03:14 AM
forks auldyin SV Ecosse 2 16-08-06 09:22 PM


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:21 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® - Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.