Motoczysz C1. - SV650.org

rictus01 · 20-03-12, 07:17 AM

I watched the discovery program "Birth of a Racer" recently, the aim was an all new, all american designed engine and bike for motogp, built from the ground up in 9 months in 2006.

Apparently the 990cc engine fell foul of the 800cc motogp change before it could be made competative so never came to much (hence why we didn't see it on the grid), but the new rule changes to the 1000cc limit might open the door for them once again?

found this

original and interesting design.

this is the 2008 spec

Engine Configuration

Twin Crank/ Triple OHC/Wet Deep Sump

Type
Z-Line 4

Displacement
990cc

Bore
82mm

Stroke
46.85mm

Included Valve angle
22 degrees

Fuel Injection
Single overhead/10bar pressure

Exhaust
FMF Titanium 45mm 4-2-4

Cooling
Multi-stage with twin front and rear ducted under tail radiators

Cam Drive
Gear with compliant element

Intake Valve
Titanium 33.5mm diameter with 4.5mm stem

Exhaust Valve
Titanium 28.0mm diameter with 4.5mm stem

Transmission
Gearbox
6 Speed, Quick change, Close ratio

Clutch
Dry pack with Hydro electro slipper control
(replica: ramp and ball slipper control)

Electronics
Display
Magneti Marelli DDU

Data Acquisition
Magneti Marelli SDT E (replica: optional)

Throttle Control
2 cylinders fly-by-wire

Ignition
4 plug mounted coils

Charging System
350W, 14V Magnetti Marelli permanent magnet

Data Acq sensors
20+ (replica: optional)

Data Acq Channels
250 (replica: optional)

Chassis

Seat Height
32.5in (825mm)

Foot Peg Height
16in (400mm)

Seat to Handlebar
30in (785mm)

Frame/ Subframe
Carbon Fiber Frame 5kg / Carbon Fiber Subframe 2.5 kg

Swing arm
Aluminum with adjustable pivot concentric to output shaft

Rear Suspension
DUO spring with regressive damped Ohlins shock

Front Suspension
6X Flex with Ohlins shock

Wheel Base
adjustable 1420mm to 1475mm

Rake
22.5 degrees

Trail
Independently adjustable 89mm - 101mm

Front Wheel
Carbon Fiber BST 16.5 x 3.5

Rear Wheel
Carbon Fiber BST 16.5 x 6.25

Tires
Michelin C3M Technology

Brake Calipers
Brembo Monoblock radial mount calipers

Brake Rotors
Brembo 320mm

Fuel Tank
Carbon Fiber 2 kg

Body
Carbon Fiber

Performance

Weight
Less than 350lbs (158 kg) (replica: less than 375lbs)

HP
220+ hp @ 15,000rpm (replica: 200+ hp @ 15,000rpm)

Torque
80+ ft/lbs (108+ N.m) (replica: torque subject to change)

Max RPM
16,000

Cheers Mark.

joshwalker094 · 20-03-12, 07:50 AM

I watched it aswell

it was pretty good, I noticed it was the same guy trying to do Iom tt with a electric bike, on the tt DVD

rictus01 · 20-03-12, 07:51 AM

yeah i believe they won the tt zero last year

andrewsmith · 20-03-12, 12:12 PM

Yep

A version of this chassis won the TT zero with Rutter on board. They are expecting the 100mph lap this year.

Shame it fell flat with the 800 changes. Same as KTM's 990 monster (but that has funding like Aprilia's Cube project)

carelesschucca · 20-03-12, 12:29 PM

I remember reading about this in Motorcycle Racer, some of the ideas are lovely. Alan Cathcart who test rode it for the magazine said it was a lovely bike to ride. I've not seen the program must look it up. Thanks for the heads up it'll be on again soon no doubt.

20-03-12, 10:02 PM

That's a nice looking bike. I've just had to look up what a Z-line engine was, because I'd never heard of it.

It's such a neat layout, hard to believe they're the first to build one. Still, they always say the best ideas are the ones so simple that you can't understand why nobody else has thought of it.

More details http://www.motoczysz.com/news/articl...-line_4_engine

carelesschucca · 21-03-12, 12:31 PM

Dunno if its that simple to have two contra-rotating cranks. Certainly well above my level of expertise... Having said that Lego Technic was pushing my boundries.

20-03-12, 07:17 AM	#1
rictus01 Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South London Posts: 9,799	Motoczysz C1. I watched the discovery program "Birth of a Racer" recently, the aim was an all new, all american designed engine and bike for motogp, built from the ground up in 9 months in 2006. Apparently the 990cc engine fell foul of the 800cc motogp change before it could be made competative so never came to much (hence why we didn't see it on the grid), but the new rule changes to the 1000cc limit might open the door for them once again? found this original and interesting design. this is the 2008 spec Engine Configuration Twin Crank/ Triple OHC/Wet Deep Sump Type Z-Line 4 Displacement 990cc Bore 82mm Stroke 46.85mm Included Valve angle 22 degrees Fuel Injection Single overhead/10bar pressure Exhaust FMF Titanium 45mm 4-2-4 Cooling Multi-stage with twin front and rear ducted under tail radiators Cam Drive Gear with compliant element Intake Valve Titanium 33.5mm diameter with 4.5mm stem Exhaust Valve Titanium 28.0mm diameter with 4.5mm stem Transmission Gearbox 6 Speed, Quick change, Close ratio Clutch Dry pack with Hydro electro slipper control (replica: ramp and ball slipper control) Electronics Display Magneti Marelli DDU Data Acquisition Magneti Marelli SDT E (replica: optional) Throttle Control 2 cylinders fly-by-wire Ignition 4 plug mounted coils Charging System 350W, 14V Magnetti Marelli permanent magnet Data Acq sensors 20+ (replica: optional) Data Acq Channels 250 (replica: optional) Chassis Seat Height 32.5in (825mm) Foot Peg Height 16in (400mm) Seat to Handlebar 30in (785mm) Frame/ Subframe Carbon Fiber Frame 5kg / Carbon Fiber Subframe 2.5 kg Swing arm Aluminum with adjustable pivot concentric to output shaft Rear Suspension DUO spring with regressive damped Ohlins shock Front Suspension 6X Flex with Ohlins shock Wheel Base adjustable 1420mm to 1475mm Rake 22.5 degrees Trail Independently adjustable 89mm - 101mm Front Wheel Carbon Fiber BST 16.5 x 3.5 Rear Wheel Carbon Fiber BST 16.5 x 6.25 Tires Michelin C3M Technology Brake Calipers Brembo Monoblock radial mount calipers Brake Rotors Brembo 320mm Fuel Tank Carbon Fiber 2 kg Body Carbon Fiber Performance Weight Less than 350lbs (158 kg) (replica: less than 375lbs) HP 220+ hp @ 15,000rpm (replica: 200+ hp @ 15,000rpm) Torque 80+ ft/lbs (108+ N.m) (replica: torque subject to change) Max RPM 16,000 Cheers Mark. __________________ Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, 'Wow! What a Ride!

20-03-12, 07:51 AM	#3
rictus01 Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South London Posts: 9,799	Re: Motoczysz C1 yeah i believe they won the tt zero last year __________________ Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, 'Wow! What a Ride!

20-03-12, 12:12 PM	#4
andrewsmith Member Mega Poster Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, Just south of salad dodging country Posts: 7,750	Re: Motoczysz C1 Yep A version of this chassis won the TT zero with Rutter on board. They are expecting the 100mph lap this year. Shame it fell flat with the 800 changes. Same as KTM's 990 monster (but that has funding like Aprilia's Cube project) __________________ RIP Reeder 20/07/1988 - 21/03/2012. Always missed squire!!! Every year we meet old friends, gain some new ones, lose old ones and you always remember them all. “Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever.” Mahatma Gandhi

20-03-12, 12:29 PM	#5
carelesschucca Member Mega Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kilsyth - Bonnie Scotland Posts: 2,727	Re: Motoczysz C1 I remember reading about this in Motorcycle Racer, some of the ideas are lovely. Alan Cathcart who test rode it for the magazine said it was a lovely bike to ride. I've not seen the program must look it up. Thanks for the heads up it'll be on again soon no doubt. __________________ Innuendo - it's great when you get it. sv650s (gone) gsx-r600 (gone) Street R675 (now living in Inbhir Nis )

20-03-12, 10:02 PM	#6
DJFridge Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Motoczysz C1. That's a nice looking bike. I've just had to look up what a Z-line engine was, because I'd never heard of it. It's such a neat layout, hard to believe they're the first to build one. Still, they always say the best ideas are the ones so simple that you can't understand why nobody else has thought of it. More details http://www.motoczysz.com/news/articl...-line_4_engine

21-03-12, 12:31 PM	#7
carelesschucca Member Mega Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kilsyth - Bonnie Scotland Posts: 2,727	Re: Motoczysz C1. Dunno if its that simple to have two contra-rotating cranks. Certainly well above my level of expertise... Having said that Lego Technic was pushing my boundries. __________________ Innuendo - it's great when you get it. sv650s (gone) gsx-r600 (gone) Street R675 (now living in Inbhir Nis )

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