Pray 4 Muamba

I just saw the cover of the metro with Gary Chill's shirt with this slogan, a little bit of google and I found the reason for it.

Loads of contradictory info online but general jist is that he had a heart attack on the pitch. Thats horrific and seems to happen frequently enough for it to be quite a scary thing.

Thoughts are with those surrounding him at the moment, hopefully the football league doesnt cast a shaddow over it. It seems that its something people need making aware of.

Maybe someone can answer one question I have about it, is this a football thing? I mean these clubs make millions and their players have become such highly tuned athletes Im concerend that they have also become like highly tuned engines ie timebombs.
You see it time and again that players pull a hammy or strain thier groin (football hernia) and they're out for weeks but other such sports dont seem to have the same regulartiy of injury.
To me that suggests they're been pushed to shape themselves at thier bodies absolute limit so when something goes wrong, you get event like Saturdays.

Yeah watched this unfold on saturday, very sad.

When they said he was still being resussed 90 mins later i was convinced he was dead, my wife used to work in A&E and most people have 30 mins tops.

He was a great player for brum, very committed and a fans favourite, so i personally was quite upset tbh when i first seen what was happening, hope the young lad pulls through.

In regards to your question, i dont think his sudden heart failure was football related tbh, some people have weaknesses that lay hidden.

Luckily for him (hopefully) he collapsed in the 2nd best place, surrounded by paramedics and club doctors, waiting ambulance etc, if he'd been out on the street, i doubt we'd be talking about praying for him now.

GWS Fabrice

[Littlepeahead]

Like most professional sports people he would have been tested at various medicals but it doesn't always show up.

Info about the condition most likely suffered by this footaballer can be found here:

http://www.c-r-y.org.uk/medical_conditions.htm

The Middlesex players are all tested. Sadly the Captain's brother died just before Christmas, he was a fit young man with no history of heart problems and died in his sleep.

Chris8886 suffered a similar thing last year as most of you know. He was in a bar in Thailand - standing next to 2 nurses lucky for him. They still don't know what caused his heart so stop and he defied all the odds.

It isn't that uncommon in fit young people but your chances of survival rely very much on 2 things. A quick response by first aiders who keep oxygen going to your brain by performing CPR and access to a defibrillator with someone knowing how to use it.

So people, get yourself CPR trained. I'm about to set up a first aid course for the Soho group, and although we will be learning what to do if you are at road accident this will include CPR which is vital in any situation where a person's heart stops.

That can be caused by heart attack, electrocution, choking, allergy, any number of things. You don't have to be a paramedic or cardiac doctor to help, just keeping the oxygen getting to the victims brain until the professionals arrive with the clever kit can save a life.

how is chris doing now?

It was horrible what happened on Saturday, you could clearly see the distress on the players' faces and the crowd when it was happening.

News reports indicate his heart only started working by itself when he arrived at the hospital which was 2 hours after he collapsed.

There's an article trying to answer your op

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17429446

GWS Fabrice

[Littlepeahead]

Originally Posted by Owenski

how is chris doing now?

He's ugly, annoying, tells terrible jokes and snores like a warthog with a sinus problem. But that's just the same as before!

Chris also has a rather impressive lump on his ribs which is his built in defibrillator. Anything that prevents me having to give him mouth to mouth is a good thing. If his heart ever tries to take a nap again the little box will shock him back to a normal heartbeat.

[MisterTommyH]

Sudden Death Syndrome is something thats popped up on the news now and then... it's tends to get noticed when fit young people suddenly have heart failure.

A Walsall reserve died from it last season or the season before and I think it's happened to someone at Man City, and something similar happened on the pitch at the Confederates cup a while back.

I read somewhere that there are about 500 instances of it a year and there were calls to have all young people screened - although the fact that Muamba was a professional and internationl highlights that you can't stop it all the time (you would assume that he'd had multiple ECGs).

If anything he was extrememly lucky to be so close to a defibrilator - although his heart didn't start for however long the quick start of treatment is known to be key (and I doubt they would have had one so close at the training ground). Kind of makes you think there should be a defib in every company first aid kit especially as they are so simple now.

(BTW all of this is from things on the news and first aid courses etc... by no means have any special knowledge of the condition).

The fact that it seems to happen to footballers a lot does make me wonder if it's something to do with the training regime and lifestyle that raises the chances?

[Messie]

LPH - how can you be insensitive at this sad time.... reminding us about Chris.....





he's really not THAT ugly x

[Littlepeahead]

There was no intention to be insensitive about the condition I hope everyone understands, my point was that with fast help you do survive. Chris is the positive outcome. The link I posted earlier was to a charity he is involved with. They do great work screening young people. Sadly define are not as common as they should be. We have 4 on site at Lord's. I made sure I got training so I can use a defib anywhere.

I think Sally was being humorous, it was a further jibe at poor old Chris as opposed to what the words actually said. A read between the lines jobby I think, read it again you'll see what I mean.