Worn pads - SV650.org

Fallout · 03-05-13, 10:45 PM

Thought I'd put this up here for giggles. I bought the Tiger a few months back from a dealer and asked them to check the brakes as I'd be doing a load of miles. They assured me they had loads of life left in them. Thought nothing of it and did 4000 odd miles.

Service interval was due but couldn't get an appointment at a Triumph dealer for a month so decided to service it myself. Front pads had less than a mm left, but the rear pads were the star of the show. The rear calliper slider had jammed on one pin so had been wearing unevenly since new AFAIK. Disc is surprisingly fine considering, though discoloured where it was metal on metal!

Moral of the story for me is you just can't trust garages! I really want to buy a KTM from them in the future too, but now thinking there is no real benefit over buying privately. If you don't get piece of mind, then what is the point?

squirrel_hunter · 03-05-13, 11:00 PM

Nice.

I've not gone that far. Did go down to the metal on a set of rear pads. Didn't bother me that much as it wasn't my bike. However Stretchie never lets me forget I did this to his Blackbird. He did tell me about them being low and I was supposed to do them before it got too low, but in my defence I don't use the rear brake. I also forgot that the Blackbird has linked brakes.

03-05-13, 11:04 PM

Its odd eh you either seem to hear alot of negligence or just selling you something you dont need yet. Wheres the honest guys? Although like anything you only usually hear the negative places and never about the good ones

NTECUK · 04-05-13, 05:59 AM

It might have been ok thickness wise when they looked at it.
All the salt on the roads has got into allot of things .
Shame you didn't pick it up when you did your once a week look over .

Fallout · 04-05-13, 08:08 AM

I check everything more than once a week. You'd have to take the calliper off to be able to see it. You just can't get a good view with them on, so I took it on faith they'd last until the next scheduled service interval. It's the fault of the mechanic IMO if a bike has 4000 miles to the next service interval and pads have far fewer miles left on them. They need to make buyers aware of that, especially if I specifically asked them to check out the brakes. Oh wells.

04-05-13, 09:13 AM

Some people are harder on brake pad wear than others, like tyre wear.
I am not defending the garage concerned but if it was 4000 miles on a set of tyres would you have changed them?
Appreciating that you asked for them to be checked before buying this is not good considering you seem to be a high mileage user.
I use a mirror on a telescopic arm, and a torch, for a quick check on my brakes between service intervals.
Regarding KTM,I considered a change myself but having read a few KTM forms and reports from individuals make sure you really want one for high mileage usage. Taking into consideration the spares availability, dealer service which you seem to have first hand knowledge of and depending on what model you are buying, where it is built and source of the build parts.
With Triumph I have always been able to get any parts 1 or 2 days after ordering them if they are not available from stock held in the dealers.

Fallout · 04-05-13, 06:00 PM

The thing about the pads is if they had have checked them, they would've seen uneven wear and realised the calliper was jammed. Any unevenly worn pad needs changing and the problem rectified, imo. They can't have checked properly. I am not a big user of the rear brake either, so find it hard to believe I did all that wear myself. In any case, it's no big drama.

I don't think I could buy a KTM for high mileage. I always shop with my head and not my heart (boring I know), so if I do get one eventually it'll be as a toy.

Sid Squid · 04-05-13, 06:17 PM

I'm not sure you should blame them, brake pad life is very difficult to estimate.

Fallout · 04-05-13, 06:54 PM

True, but a jammed calliper and a pad wearing unevenly should've been picked up when I asked them to check them out. I suspect margins are low on second hand bikes and a quick look over is all they get.

21QUEST · 04-05-13, 06:59 PM

Good that you caught it in time.

The truth I believe is, all the guff dealers(most) give about 1000 point check , full service etc etc is just, welll... guff

It's at the very least, very annoying

03-05-13, 11:00 PM	#2
squirrel_hunter Member Mega Poster Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sunny Swindon Posts: 3,579	Re: Worn pads Nice. I've not gone that far. Did go down to the metal on a set of rear pads. Didn't bother me that much as it wasn't my bike. However Stretchie never lets me forget I did this to his Blackbird. He did tell me about them being low and I was supposed to do them before it got too low, but in my defence I don't use the rear brake. I also forgot that the Blackbird has linked brakes. __________________ "A little enthusiastic?" May I add here, GG is awesome and I think I am in love with Stretchie...he rocks my world! SH2 \| 2MA \| GROM \| YSR

03-05-13, 11:04 PM	#3
stuR Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Worn pads Its odd eh you either seem to hear alot of negligence or just selling you something you dont need yet. Wheres the honest guys? Although like anything you only usually hear the negative places and never about the good ones

04-05-13, 05:59 AM	#4
NTECUK Member Mega Poster Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: essex Posts: 5,314	Re: Worn pads It might have been ok thickness wise when they looked at it. All the salt on the roads has got into allot of things . Shame you didn't pick it up when you did your once a week look over . __________________ Raisin cookies that look like chocolate chip cookies are the reason I have trust issues.

04-05-13, 08:08 AM	#5
Fallout Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Basingstoke Posts: 2,983	Re: Worn pads I check everything more than once a week. You'd have to take the calliper off to be able to see it. You just can't get a good view with them on, so I took it on faith they'd last until the next scheduled service interval. It's the fault of the mechanic IMO if a bike has 4000 miles to the next service interval and pads have far fewer miles left on them. They need to make buyers aware of that, especially if I specifically asked them to check out the brakes. Oh wells. __________________ MotoGoLoco - You knows it The Shed - Suzuki GSX-R 750 K1 \| Triumph Tiger 1050 K6 Fallout Bikes (VLogs, Tutorials, Bike Vids) Fallout Breakbeat (My Music) Last edited by Fallout; 04-05-13 at 08:10 AM.

04-05-13, 09:13 AM	#6
Dicky Ticker Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Worn pads Some people are harder on brake pad wear than others, like tyre wear. I am not defending the garage concerned but if it was 4000 miles on a set of tyres would you have changed them? Appreciating that you asked for them to be checked before buying this is not good considering you seem to be a high mileage user. I use a mirror on a telescopic arm, and a torch, for a quick check on my brakes between service intervals. Regarding KTM,I considered a change myself but having read a few KTM forms and reports from individuals make sure you really want one for high mileage usage. Taking into consideration the spares availability, dealer service which you seem to have first hand knowledge of and depending on what model you are buying, where it is built and source of the build parts. With Triumph I have always been able to get any parts 1 or 2 days after ordering them if they are not available from stock held in the dealers.

04-05-13, 06:00 PM	#7
Fallout Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Basingstoke Posts: 2,983	Re: Worn pads The thing about the pads is if they had have checked them, they would've seen uneven wear and realised the calliper was jammed. Any unevenly worn pad needs changing and the problem rectified, imo. They can't have checked properly. I am not a big user of the rear brake either, so find it hard to believe I did all that wear myself. In any case, it's no big drama. I don't think I could buy a KTM for high mileage. I always shop with my head and not my heart (boring I know), so if I do get one eventually it'll be as a toy. __________________ MotoGoLoco - You knows it The Shed - Suzuki GSX-R 750 K1 \| Triumph Tiger 1050 K6 Fallout Bikes (VLogs, Tutorials, Bike Vids) Fallout Breakbeat (My Music)

04-05-13, 06:17 PM	#8
Sid Squid No, I don't lend tools. Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Skunk Works, Nth London Posts: 8,680	Re: Worn pads I'm not sure you should blame them, brake pad life is very difficult to estimate. __________________ If an SV650 has a flat tyre in the forest and no-one is there to blow it up, how long will it be 'til someone posts that the reg/rec is duff and the world will end unless a CBR unit is fitted? A little bit of knowledge = a dangerous thing. "a deathless anthem of nuclear-strength romantic angst"

04-05-13, 06:54 PM	#9
Fallout Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Basingstoke Posts: 2,983	Re: Worn pads True, but a jammed calliper and a pad wearing unevenly should've been picked up when I asked them to check them out. I suspect margins are low on second hand bikes and a quick look over is all they get. __________________ MotoGoLoco - You knows it The Shed - Suzuki GSX-R 750 K1 \| Triumph Tiger 1050 K6 Fallout Bikes (VLogs, Tutorials, Bike Vids) Fallout Breakbeat (My Music)

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