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Old 24-11-13, 12:36 AM   #1
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I popped into my local Triumph dealer today to test ride the Daytona 675. I absolutely love the bike and could just about stretch to the monthly payments so of I went home to see if I could insure it. I thought this would be a formality... My 955i Daytona is dirt cheap, around £250, and that is a more powerful machine. I received a set of quotes which a Russian oil tycoon would have baulked at - around the £1000 mark. I don't understand. I'm over 25, have never had a claim in 5 years of riding, live in a typically middle class area of London and the bike is safely locked away in a garage each night, how can they justify those quotations? Has anyone else tried to insure a brand new bike and had better luck? Looks like I will have to keep buying used bikes for cheap, which is a shame because I would really love for once to have a low mileage bike which I can be sure will be reliable and hasn't been thrashed before it got to me.

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Old 24-11-13, 08:39 AM   #2
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Strange, the 955i and 675 both seem to be group 15. Normally insurers do that to put you off as the don't really want to have you on their books.
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Old 24-11-13, 09:51 AM   #3
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Yeah it happened to me. Got quoted by a shed load of company's to insure a new gixxa 600. Ranged between 1400 to 2000
I was gobsmacked to say the least. Oh I am 44.


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Old 24-11-13, 10:06 AM   #4
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I popped into my local Triumph dealer today to test ride the Daytona 675. I absolutely love the bike and could just about stretch to the monthly payments so of I went home to see if I could insure it. I thought this would be a formality... My 955i Daytona is dirt cheap, around £250, and that is a more powerful machine. I received a set of quotes which a Russian oil tycoon would have baulked at - around the £1000 mark. I don't understand. I'm over 25, have never had a claim in 5 years of riding, live in a typically middle class area of London and the bike is safely locked away in a garage each night, how can they justify those quotations? Has anyone else tried to insure a brand new bike and had better luck? Looks like I will have to keep buying used bikes for cheap, which is a shame because I would really love for once to have a low mileage bike which I can be sure will be reliable and hasn't been thrashed before it got to me.

Had to get that off my chest. End rant.
The 955i is an older and cheaper bike. I suspect if anything happened to it they would write it off. The 675 being brand new and a lot more expensive will cost more to get repaired or to pay out if it is written off. You may also find the insurer may have high claims against the 675 being written off/involved in accidents/stolen hence the higher premium.

FWIW my F800st (6 years old) cost me £400 FC. I can insure a brand new S1000RR for £1k FC.
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Old 24-11-13, 10:16 AM   #5
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The 955i is an older and cheaper bike. I suspect if anything happened to it they would write it off. The 675 being brand new and a lot more expensive will cost more to get repaired or to pay out if it is written off. You may also find the insurer may have high claims against the 675 being written off/involved in accidents/stolen hence the higher premium.
This.

Plus, the demographic of who buys a 955 vs a 675 is different so the same "group" may well have a different risk profile and therefore different weightings on premiums. Which is effectively what Job says above...
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Old 24-11-13, 12:12 PM   #6
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Been in the same boat recventley, was looking at moving up from a 955i S3 to a newer 1050R and one look at 1200 to 1500 a year insurance (up from 240) put me off.

Although the Tiger 800 and Street Triple came back under same quotes (400 comp), tho trying to shoehorn 6'4 and 20 stone onto a Street was a bit of a giggle.

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Old 24-11-13, 12:14 PM   #7
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I popped into my local Triumph dealer today to test ride the Daytona 675. I absolutely love the bike and could just about stretch to the monthly payments so of I went home to see if I could insure it. I thought this would be a formality... My 955i Daytona is dirt cheap, around £250, and that is a more powerful machine. I received a set of quotes which a Russian oil tycoon would have baulked at - around the £1000 mark. I don't understand. I'm over 25, have never had a claim in 5 years of riding, live in a typically middle class area of London and the bike is safely locked away in a garage each night, how can they justify those quotations? Has anyone else tried to insure a brand new bike and had better luck? Looks like I will have to keep buying used bikes for cheap, which is a shame because I would really love for once to have a low mileage bike which I can be sure will be reliable and hasn't been thrashed before it got to me.

Had to get that off my chest. End rant.
Sounds like the insurance is trying to do you a favour.They are saying to keep the 955 and save shedloads of dosh on the premium,and the cost of buying the new bike.Apart from the odd late night knee down on Apex Corner the 955 is probably a nicer bike to own and ride anyway
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Old 24-11-13, 01:36 PM   #8
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Sounds like the insurance is trying to do you a favour.They are saying to keep the 955 and save shedloads of dosh on the premium,and the cost of buying the new bike.Apart from the odd late night knee down on Apex Corner the 955 is probably a nicer bike to own and ride anyway
I do love the 955i, but it's at an age that it spends longer in the garage being repaired than it does on the road being ridden! I understand that with the increased value comes an increased risk to the insurer, but I can really understand why dealerships are finding it so hard to shift new machines!
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675's get pinched .
So see if a proper tracker and security markings helps.
Its got a thacham imobaliser . An alarm didnt reduce mine.
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Try MCE mate, I did some test quotes on the 675, Bennets refused, I got £300 from MCE...
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