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Old 28-12-15, 10:12 AM   #1
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I know riding safe is the main thing for avoiding an accident but do you guys have an opinion on black bikes and black clothing being harder for other road users to see?

This is essentially do I buy a black bike question☺
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Old 28-12-15, 11:36 AM   #2
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I don't think the bike colour makes too much difference to be honest. Most times a car driver will be looking at you front on so won't see the plastics.
Wear a white or hi viz helmet, keep your headlights on and buy a black bike!

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Old 28-12-15, 12:08 PM   #3
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That's what I was thinking, shame I like my black agv helmet though. Hi viz vest then!
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Old 28-12-15, 12:23 PM   #4
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Not sure I wanted to read all that Yokohama.��
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Old 28-12-15, 12:42 PM   #5
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I know riding safe is the main thing for avoiding an accident but do you guys have an opinion on black bikes and black clothing being harder for other road users to see?

This is essentially do I buy a black bike question☺
If you ride at night, it'll make you a lot harder to be seen if you are all black. You can get black reflective tape/strips you could put on you/the bike.


Good road positioning, good planning ahead and being aware will keep you alive and seen by other motorists. Don't be afraid to use the horn either.
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Old 28-12-15, 01:22 PM   #6
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My previous bike was a Suzi GT380 with J&R expansion chambers, so other road users could always hear me coming, irrespective of whatever I was wearing

My K6 has the twin headlights on all the time, I reckon if a driver can't see those, he isn't going to see me not matter what I'm wearing.
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Old 28-12-15, 02:02 PM   #7
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True, +1 for headlights 24/7 (on all vehicles)
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Old 30-12-15, 12:13 PM   #8
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Nightbreakers on all the time. Thumb covering horn button. Speed, positioning and observation appropriate for if/when the phone user decides to drive their vehicle at you. What isn't being looked at cannot be seen.

I'm slowly changing my SV Blue to satin black. Because I like black, and it's an old bike which I'd rather looked superficially ratty but was mechanically sound, and it may help keep prying eyes and unwelcome attention from the local thieves to the minimum. Don't care that it's common.

Colour and visibility does depend on background and surroundings though, a dark clothed rider will show up better against a daytime sky either clear or with white/light grey cloud, for example.

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Improved visibility so as to reduce the poor conspicuity of motorcyclists can be achieved by utilising day lights, by distinctive vehicle colouration and by wearing clothing that contains fluorescent and reflective material. This will increase the conspicuity of the rider and hence help to reduce the likelihood of an accident occurring in the first place.
However, do we get to see the statistics that say brightly coloured bikes are less likely to be involved in an 'accident'? Of course not. We see the stats that say the overwhelming majority of fatalities are caused by right of way incursions (motorcyclists being hit by cars pulling out at junctions and roundabouts) where the driver usually says in their defence "I didn't see them". It's then assumed that the negligence of a driver can be partially apportioned to the motorcyclist by suggesting they wear certain colours to make themselves 'more visible' to those who aren't looking at them in the first place.

Edit: TLDR sorry for coming over so pompous! Get the colour you really want and enjoy

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Old 30-12-15, 12:29 PM   #9
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Worth wearing reflective, either sam brown, bib or helmet stickers to ensure you can be seen if left lying in the road at night. I put reflective stickers on my hat to comply with the French requirement. Initially sceptical I now think they are a good idea and will stick them on whether travelling to France or not.
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Old 31-12-15, 12:39 PM   #10
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I've had two black bikes and wear mostly black clothing and I've also had two white bikes.

People pull out in front of me all the time no matter which colour bike I'm on, I'm still alive though (even though some people get me confused with a rcently deceased rock star) so it can't be that dangerous.
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