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08-02-05, 10:12 AM

So...there i was filtering down "lambeth hill" (thats what the police station said it was as i passed it).

Filtering...25mph or so down hill...me on the outside, solid traffic on the inside, 5 bikes/scooters behind me. Filtering happily....Traffic lights/crossing green for me...

Approaching lights...nothing...nothing...woman with push chair in the middle of the road...brake brake brake emergency stop...about 3ft away from them (just on the crossing line as it happens, 10/10 for style

)

I couldn't believe how reckless someone would be with there child!

It's lucky it wasn't raining/i could stopotherwise i would of had to of thrown the bike down the other side of the road to avoid her (and would of been my fault as well, pedestrians dont require insurance...yet)
Im just shocked...so erm keep your eyes open guys.
Dan

jambo · 08-02-05, 10:16 AM

Natural Selection. Darwin Rules. Stupid people have stupid kids....

I'll get me coat...

08-02-05, 10:22 AM

Just coz the lights are green on a ped crossing doesn't mean that you have right of way

Those on the crossing have right of way regardless of the colour of the lights

Yeah, I know it's daft, but that's the way it is and it would have been your fault. You did well to stop.

Viney · 08-02-05, 10:28 AM

Observation is what its all about. You dont just look at the road ahead, look around, look for peoples feet under cars, people walking along the pavement. Everyone is potential target.

You do learn this knid of thing on IAM type stuff which is good and handy, but some of the other stuff they teach you is strange

08-02-05, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jambo

Natural Selection. Darwin Rules. Stupid people have stupid kids....

I'll get me coat...

is that y you ride with one arm in the air?

Balky001 · 08-02-05, 10:37 AM

Jabba, your comments remind me of a sketch from Britta's Empire. He used to walk across crossings without looking knowing that if he got run over and died at least he was in the right. Rights and responsibilities - some people only think they have to do the first. If you have a child you'd think legal techicalities wouldn't be that important.

Sudoxe, well done on stopping! I'm sure millions of people will say this but its always worth slowing down at crossings and junctions whatever the conditions/rights of way

08-02-05, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Viney

Observation is what its all about. You dont just look at the road ahead, look around, look for peoples feet under cars, people walking along the pavement. Everyone is potential target.

You do learn this knid of thing on IAM type stuff which is good and handy, but some of the other stuff they teach you is strange

God - If that's the case, I doubt you need to worry too much about hitting them!!

And - Pedestrians are nutters - good job stopping Dan

but I reckonperhaps 'natural selection' should have been allowed to run it's course!

08-02-05, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Balky001

Sudoxe, well done on stopping! I'm sure millions of people will say this but its always worth slowing down at crossings and junctions whatever the conditions/rights of way

Yep, i was slowing down doing obvs when she decided to walk out, so slamed on the brakes...

Dan

08-02-05, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jabba-the-Hutt

Just coz the lights are green on a ped crossing doesn't mean that you have right of way

Those on the crossing have right of way regardless of the colour of the lights

Yeah, I know it's daft, but that's the way it is and it would have been your fault. You did well to stop.

I'd be interested where you believe the authority for this statement resides.

If the crossing was a traffic light controlled (pelican) crossing then the car/bike has right of way as long as the light is green.

If the crossing was a Zebra crossing then the pedestrian has right of way once their foot is on the crossing.

08-02-05, 10:45 AM

Yes, sadly a lot of people seem to think a pram is a "right of way" tool. I think they know a lot of drivers will keep going and make them stop in the middle of the road/cross more quickly, but if they have a child with them/pram they'll throw on the anchors.

08-02-05, 10:12 AM	#1
Sudoxe Guest Posts: n/a	STOP! So...there i was filtering down "lambeth hill" (thats what the police station said it was as i passed it). Filtering...25mph or so down hill...me on the outside, solid traffic on the inside, 5 bikes/scooters behind me. Filtering happily....Traffic lights/crossing green for me... Approaching lights...nothing...nothing...woman with push chair in the middle of the road...brake brake brake emergency stop...about 3ft away from them (just on the crossing line as it happens, 10/10 for style ) I couldn't believe how reckless someone would be with there child! It's lucky it wasn't raining/i could stopotherwise i would of had to of thrown the bike down the other side of the road to avoid her (and would of been my fault as well, pedestrians dont require insurance...yet) Im just shocked...so erm keep your eyes open guys. Dan

08-02-05, 10:16 AM	#2
jambo Member Mega Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Croydonia Posts: 5,376	Natural Selection. Darwin Rules. Stupid people have stupid kids.... I'll get me coat... __________________ Modern motorcycles are bloody brilliant, enjoy it while we can

08-02-05, 10:37 AM	#6
Balky001 Member Mega Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Leigh - on - Sea, Essex. Posts: 1,491	Jabba, your comments remind me of a sketch from Britta's Empire. He used to walk across crossings without looking knowing that if he got run over and died at least he was in the right. Rights and responsibilities - some people only think they have to do the first. If you have a child you'd think legal techicalities wouldn't be that important. Sudoxe, well done on stopping! I'm sure millions of people will say this but its always worth slowing down at crossings and junctions whatever the conditions/rights of way __________________ SV650SK3 - GSXR600K2 - GSXR750K6 - ZX636RC1H - HD Sportster 1200 - CBR600F 2012 - GSXR1000K7 - Triumph Bonneville T100 2019 - Aprilia Tuono 660

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08-02-05, 10:22 AM	#3
Jabba Guest Posts: n/a	Just coz the lights are green on a ped crossing doesn't mean that you have right of way Those on the crossing have right of way regardless of the colour of the lights Yeah, I know it's daft, but that's the way it is and it would have been your fault. You did well to stop.

08-02-05, 10:28 AM	#4
Viney Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In the shadows to the left Posts: 7,700	Observation is what its all about. You dont just look at the road ahead, look around, look for peoples feet under cars, people walking along the pavement. Everyone is potential target. You do learn this knid of thing on IAM type stuff which is good and handy, but some of the other stuff they teach you is strange

08-02-05, 10:45 AM	#10
Ceri JC Guest Posts: n/a	Yes, sadly a lot of people seem to think a pram is a "right of way" tool. I think they know a lot of drivers will keep going and make them stop in the middle of the road/cross more quickly, but if they have a child with them/pram they'll throw on the anchors.