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Old 28-03-05, 09:03 AM   #1
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Default Good or Bad riding? or is this acceped???

HI all,


Just thought I would share this with you lot before I post the curry recipe in "Idle Banter"

I was out on Friday getting the mileage on the blue cow (before she goes in for 1st service) so made my way to Abbergavenny through the twisties and back lanes
Now I know that I am by no means and advanced rider, so I take my time, and ride within my limits, taking it easy, taking int he views and when the roads clear overtaking where necessary and so on.

Anyway, got to Abber and on then set on my way back, for the S.wales lot they'll know where I am talking about.
Taking it easy on my way bak, and all of a sudden I'm stuck behind maybe 6 cars on a single lane carriageway, really twisty, so you can't see what's goin on in front of you, so I took my time, and didn't go up the **** o the cars in front.
Suddenly there's 2 bikes beside me, a Black R1 and and old feckin thing, which looked like it was in desperate need of sitting in some museum
So as you do you let on, and this R1 decides to "RISK HIS LUCK" by riding the white line "Literally" - I thought "WHAT A F***in NOB ED" and norrowly misses a car coming in the opposite direction.

So what does his mate do ? exactly the same!!!! 2 nob eds in 1 go! SUPERB!

The bloke in front of me int he car was shaking his head (I thought it was going to come off his shoulders).

After calming down, I suddenly thought to myself - Hang ona minute, if either of them had come off or hit something, I wouldl feel obliged to stop and help and then be tied to the same brush as them by all the cage drivers

WTF !!!!

Am I being padantic or summat, sorry for the rant...I was speking to Nagai at the weekend and asked the question "Is this what you ride like on a ride out"?
If so - then expect to loose me about 4 miles back!!!

I'm so shocked at what I saw, it was un-real!

Rant over - apologies

Mass
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Old 28-03-05, 09:16 AM   #2
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I'm with you on this one, kn*bs!
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Old 28-03-05, 09:20 AM   #3
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and asked the question "Is this what you ride like on a ride out"? If so - then expect to loose me about 4 miles back!!!
No. Kamakazi pilots are simply not welcome. Spirited and highly focussed riding yes, but people who ride like you've described would be singled out and the situation explained to them. Should they decide that they don't wish to ride within reasonable boudaries and with respect for other motorists and the people they're riding with, then they'd be asked go their own way.

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I'm so shocked at what I saw, it was un-real!
It's this sort of behaviour that really does give bikers a bad name and starts to tar us all with the same brush - that's the bad news. The good news is that these sort of riders are unlikely to survive too long, as Darwinian law takes over.


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Old 28-03-05, 09:21 AM   #4
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we need ****s like that .don't we
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Old 28-03-05, 09:31 AM   #5
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Cheers all,

it sort of be-littled me at first, and then I had the same thoughts as Jonboy and the Darwin theory.

Ye know if they wanted (in some way) to frighten me, then they succeeded, wasn't scared for myself, but for their safety, if you know what I mean??

You lot must see this a lot, ye know I only have about 600 miles under my belt on the SV, IF I EVER end up like that ...well words can't just describe...

Cheers all for understanding see yers all soon, can't wait !
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Old 28-03-05, 09:52 AM   #6
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Were there double white lines? If there were and they were crossing them then theres no argument they were knobs but if there weren't maybe they still are knobs but maybe they weren't.
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Old 28-03-05, 10:12 AM   #7
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It's pretty hard to judge other people's riding. It could have been a couple of carefully executed and calculated risk overtakes, but appeared different from other angles.

Or, it could have been a couple of nobs playing keepy uppy at any cost.

Like the others say - survival of the fittest should kick in at some point if the second is true.
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Old 28-03-05, 11:51 AM   #8
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You always get some people with over developed right wrists and if they are on a bike then they will probably come off.

OK 'nuf of the Finbar Saunders. It's best to let the turkeys go, I always work on the principle that anyone can go fast, the difficult bit is stopping without it hurting.

On Saturday going from Caton -> Devils Bridge, there were 2 of us following a large 4x4 doing ~60. The road meanders nicely and the 4x4 was straightening all the corners, there was no rush we would be past him in a few hundred yards where the road straightens. A T0ssp0t came past us at well into 3 figures (with an end can like a megaphone) none of us saw him coming (the cage driver nearly hit his head on the roof when he jumped ). The rider didn't have enough time to assess the situation and couldn't tell the 4x4 was using all the road I reckon I was lucky not to be clearing bits off the road.

Sad thing is I bet the rider blamed the 4x4 for cr4p driving
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Old 28-03-05, 11:57 AM   #9
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not knowing the roads hard to say... if double whites thats just stupid...
but after the white line thread here recently and people pointing out double whites are now used indiscriminately and people ignore them whats right and wrong....

again, its not knowing the road in question. If blind bend, oncoming traffic, no clear escape route, then theres a good reason for the white lines and you dont ride like that unless you own a r1

but if on a straight and clear view then maybe I would consider taking the opportunity to get ahead on the basis the white lines were there for no reason...

but interesting to see the comments here, the comments in the white lines thread and compare to the thread about the traffic cops program where the guy got done for the same thing and a few people were up in arms over that in comparison to the guy who lost the lotus on the corner... complaining about police bias etc...

but at the end of the day, you never ride anyone elses ride, you ride to your abilities and comfort level. Their level of experience, ability, and personal choices on risks to take will be different to you. If youre not comfortable you DONT do what they do.

If it means you are 4 miles behind so what... at least you'll still be alive next year unlike the R1 rider by the sound of it...
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Old 28-03-05, 12:24 PM   #10
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I reckon some car drivers think it bad practice for bikes to overtake when on single carriageways. Just because we can take advantage of our turn of acceleration and handling it seems we are vindicated against. I like to make quick but smooth progress, only making a move where it is safe to do so and i can see the road ahead. While i was out on friday i saw a couple of guys whitelining it down a single carriageway with traffic coming both ways - something which i wouldnt have attempted. Like its been said, it all depends on the conditions to how dangerous it was. I personally like to make sure i make enough room between myself and car before overtaking, unless im filtering where ill take a lesser gap.
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