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22-04-05, 05:35 PM

Well the battery kept going flat, which I thought was down to the alarm, now I'm 99% sure it's either reg/rec or alterator thingies.. as it doesn't seem to be charging, I haven't TESTED it yet because I can't start it without bumping and the clutch is slipping, making it impossible to bump

Anyway, I've noticed something.

With the bike, can ride it for 1000000 miles and turn it off, press the e-start and nothing...

Stick it on an optimate for 1 night and it'll start on the button for a day... (well, i.e. once in morning, once when coming home from work blah blah)

So it seems to me the battery is fine, holding a charge no problems, but the charging system isn't working as if the battery is flat it doesn't charge up when riding.. whereas it charges FINE on an optimate.

Gotta get my multimeter out and try and start the ****er and test the charging system

Bike is so much fun though, will be a shame to see it go, one of my fave bikes that I've owend!! But I did say I was only buying it until I passed my car test, and my car test is looming.. so it's soon to go

Passed my theory on Tuesday

northwind · 22-04-05, 05:48 PM

I've got a reg/rec here which is probably good, if you want to give it a crack... The breaker forgot to take oit off the subframe when I bought it

I'd need it back after but it might help you tell what's what...

johnnyrod · 25-04-05, 11:56 AM

Jump the bike off a car battery if you can. For testing the system see this:

www.bikeguru.fsnet.co.uk/alternator.html

Start with the resistance testing of the stator, make sure you have the r/r unplugged though.

25-04-05, 08:16 PM

Bike is fooked now.

The battery has leaked acid everywhere , most probably due to it being laid on it's side under the pillion seat. So I need to replace the ZXR shock with the standard one and get the battery back where it should be (gotta buy a new battery too

)

It's too hard to bump start and now impossible due to locked clutch and it won't start off a car!!! Thin more than just the battery is ****ed, like maybe the starter motor or something - not sure yet

Also the bike won't move.. i.e. put it in 1st, clutch in and it's locked solid. I think the clutch has seized and won't disengage so is too hard to push unless in neutral! Looks like I gotta take the clutch out and replace that too

Bikes stuck at work with no way of me getting it home!

Going to fix it, service it, wash it up and sell it.. goodbye SV.

northwind · 25-04-05, 08:39 PM

It's often very hard to push an SV in gear with the clutch in unless it's been warmed up... Bump starting from cold, personally I'd say just forget it, unless you're a beefy guy or you have a good assistant- I find the rear slides before the wheel turns.

Also, it's a sealed battery, won't leak unless something's badly wrong with it... (generally from overcharging or dropping IIRC) Being on its side's not known to cause problems, my spare's been left every which way all winter and is fine.

25-04-05, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by northwind

It's often very hard to push an SV in gear with the clutch in unless it's been warmed up... Bump starting from cold, personally I'd say just forget it, unless you're a beefy guy or you have a good assistant- I find the rear slides before the wheel turns.

Also, it's a sealed battery, won't leak unless something's badly wrong with it... (generally from overcharging or dropping IIRC) Being on its side's not known to cause problems, my spare's been left every which way all winter and is fine.

Very hard to push as in IMPOSSIBLE.. I'm not exactly big/strong but I could not push the bike AT ALL , not even an inch.. with the bike in 1st gear with clutch in.. it's never been like this before...

Bump starting I find very hard on the SV.. the R6 would start easily.. I can start the SV down my road as it's very steep downhill but have no chance on the flat bits..

Their is a load of white flakey stuff by the battery, 99% sure its acid as that's what battery acid does, so I'm pretty sure this is the problem... apparantly this is the 2nd battery since the shock was fitted, and this one is only a few weeks old...

25-04-05, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Yams

Quote:

Originally Posted by northwind

It's often very hard to push an SV in gear with the clutch in unless it's been warmed up... Bump starting from cold, personally I'd say just forget it, unless you're a beefy guy or you have a good assistant- I find the rear slides before the wheel turns.

Also, it's a sealed battery, won't leak unless something's badly wrong with it... (generally from overcharging or dropping IIRC) Being on its side's not known to cause problems, my spare's been left every which way all winter and is fine.

Very hard to push as in IMPOSSIBLE.. I'm not exactly big/strong but I could not push the bike AT ALL , not even an inch.. with the bike in 1st gear with clutch in.. it's never been like this before...

Bump starting I find very hard on the SV.. the R6 would start easily.. I can start the SV down my road as it's very steep downhill but have no chance on the flat bits..

Their is a load of white flakey stuff by the battery, 99% sure its acid as that's what battery acid does, so I'm pretty sure this is the problem... apparantly this is the 2nd battery since the shock was fitted, and this one is only a few weeks old...

Hi mate

im sorry ur having more probs withthe sv,

the engineers report said the chaging system was fine,

personally i would put it down to changing the shock over and putting the battery back to standard position,

im 99% sure that will fix ur problems,

Im sorry i didnt have time to do this for you before i delivered it, but as u understand it was a matter of 12 hourse between finding my bike and locating a tralier, to get the sv to u.

the shock should take all of an hour to do, and the batery no more than 30 mins, if i can be of any more help let me know, she wasnt a lemon when i had her, i am genuinly shocked to hear all this,

Balddood sorted me about a battery ant an excellent price, so try him if u need a new one, and it sholdnt leak as its sealed.

I will do it all for u if u can get it here, and thats a genuine offer, cause it might be £30 fuel, but ill sort it all for you, ill even take the alarm off if we have time,

hth

Alex

25-04-05, 09:10 PM

I had two people pushing mine with no joy.

If battery is on its side it should be a GEL type. The standard SV650 battery is not.

I've just had exactly the same problem as you. After charging battery would hold charge for weeks but when drained with small current (ie electrics on but no lights would drain in 5-10 minutes.

New battery sorted that.

25-04-05, 09:15 PM

trouble is new battery is only 5 weeks old!!

its cause its layin on its side,

basically i had a simmillar problem but i put it down to the battery i had being shot, so i bought a new one when i sold it to yams,

i said if thte problems continued it would be the battery position, and sadly they have continued,

Yams, the offer is genuine!

Red ones · 25-04-05, 09:22 PM

http://www.electrexusa.com/Images/fault_finding.pdf

The most helpful web page I have ever found for battery problems

22-04-05, 05:35 PM	#1
Yams Guest Posts: n/a	More SV troubles.. Well the battery kept going flat, which I thought was down to the alarm, now I'm 99% sure it's either reg/rec or alterator thingies.. as it doesn't seem to be charging, I haven't TESTED it yet because I can't start it without bumping and the clutch is slipping, making it impossible to bump Anyway, I've noticed something. With the bike, can ride it for 1000000 miles and turn it off, press the e-start and nothing... Stick it on an optimate for 1 night and it'll start on the button for a day... (well, i.e. once in morning, once when coming home from work blah blah) So it seems to me the battery is fine, holding a charge no problems, but the charging system isn't working as if the battery is flat it doesn't charge up when riding.. whereas it charges FINE on an optimate. Gotta get my multimeter out and try and start the ****er and test the charging system Bike is so much fun though, will be a shame to see it go, one of my fave bikes that I've owend!! But I did say I was only buying it until I passed my car test, and my car test is looming.. so it's soon to go Passed my theory on Tuesday

22-04-05, 05:48 PM	#2
northwind Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the garage where I belong Posts: 17,083	I've got a reg/rec here which is probably good, if you want to give it a crack... The breaker forgot to take oit off the subframe when I bought it I'd need it back after but it might help you tell what's what... __________________ "We are the angry mob, we read the papers every day We like what we like, we hate what we hate But we're oh so easily swayed"

25-04-05, 08:39 PM	#5
northwind Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the garage where I belong Posts: 17,083	It's often very hard to push an SV in gear with the clutch in unless it's been warmed up... Bump starting from cold, personally I'd say just forget it, unless you're a beefy guy or you have a good assistant- I find the rear slides before the wheel turns. Also, it's a sealed battery, won't leak unless something's badly wrong with it... (generally from overcharging or dropping IIRC) Being on its side's not known to cause problems, my spare's been left every which way all winter and is fine. __________________ "We are the angry mob, we read the papers every day We like what we like, we hate what we hate But we're oh so easily swayed"

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25-04-05, 11:56 AM	#3
johnnyrod Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Doncaster, oop norf Posts: 2,128	Jump the bike off a car battery if you can. For testing the system see this: www.bikeguru.fsnet.co.uk/alternator.html Start with the resistance testing of the stator, make sure you have the r/r unplugged though.

25-04-05, 08:16 PM	#4
Yams Guest Posts: n/a	Bike is fooked now. The battery has leaked acid everywhere , most probably due to it being laid on it's side under the pillion seat. So I need to replace the ZXR shock with the standard one and get the battery back where it should be (gotta buy a new battery too ) It's too hard to bump start and now impossible due to locked clutch and it won't start off a car!!! Thin more than just the battery is ****ed, like maybe the starter motor or something - not sure yet Also the bike won't move.. i.e. put it in 1st, clutch in and it's locked solid. I think the clutch has seized and won't disengage so is too hard to push unless in neutral! Looks like I gotta take the clutch out and replace that too Bikes stuck at work with no way of me getting it home! Going to fix it, service it, wash it up and sell it.. goodbye SV.

25-04-05, 09:10 PM	#8
snoopy Guest Posts: n/a	I had two people pushing mine with no joy. If battery is on its side it should be a GEL type. The standard SV650 battery is not. I've just had exactly the same problem as you. After charging battery would hold charge for weeks but when drained with small current (ie electrics on but no lights would drain in 5-10 minutes. New battery sorted that.

25-04-05, 09:15 PM	#9
454697819 Guest Posts: n/a	trouble is new battery is only 5 weeks old!! its cause its layin on its side, basically i had a simmillar problem but i put it down to the battery i had being shot, so i bought a new one when i sold it to yams, i said if thte problems continued it would be the battery position, and sadly they have continued, Yams, the offer is genuine!

25-04-05, 09:22 PM	#10
Red ones Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 1,422	http://www.electrexusa.com/Images/fault_finding.pdf The most helpful web page I have ever found for battery problems