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Old 24-11-05, 09:57 PM   #1
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Default Braking or Blipping-which is right?

There is a school of thought that suggests the following:

"Engine for go-Brakes for slow."

The theory of which says that basically decide on your braking point for a particular corner,use your brakes to reduce to the required entry speed whilst snicking down through the gearbox so that when you release the brakes you will not only be at your desired road speed but the engine speed will be at a suitable point to provide a good drive out of the turn.

This removes the possibly greater concentration and co-ordination required,(and more long winded procedure) of changing down using the blipping method.

To present an argument for the efficiency of the method mentioned, virtually all Moto GP and WSB machines utilise a slipper clutch which largely removes the affect of engine breaking and you can clearly hear the riders making multiple downshifts as they get on the brakes going in to corners.

Therefore apart from enjoying the exhaust sound and increased noise from the motor as you blip and downshift, is there any real point to using the blipping method?
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Old 24-11-05, 10:07 PM   #2
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Therefore apart from enjoying the exhaust sound and increased noise from the motor as you blip and downshift, is there any real point to using the blipping method?
Er, yes. SVs don't have slipper clutches
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Old 24-11-05, 10:08 PM   #3
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Using the engine to slow can be beneficial when the road is slippery, since it won't usually upset the suspension as much.
As for going as fast as possible round a track, I have no doubt that being able to just change into the gear you want and power out when you need it is best.
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Old 24-11-05, 10:13 PM   #4
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Jordan wrote:

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Er, yes. SVs don't have slipper clutches
Is that the best you can add to this debate mate? I am very surprised at you!
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Old 24-11-05, 10:23 PM   #5
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Jordan wrote:

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Er, yes. SVs don't have slipper clutches
Is that the best you can add to this debate mate? I am very surprised at you!


Well what more do you want! Unless having the back wheel sliding about all over the place, you gotta blip!
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Old 24-11-05, 10:23 PM   #6
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BLIP!
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Old 24-11-05, 10:32 PM   #7
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I was not asking what preferred method any of us uses,but rather offering something for us to think and comment about.

Jordan....the simple fact that you do not blip...does not naturally lead to a back wheel slide...not by any stretch of the imagination. The choice therefore is not....do I want the back to play up here or not?

(I would suggest that it is unlikely that anyone blips for example when performing an emergency stop? A situation when any locked or sliding wheel would not be desired.)

I personally am really giving this whole issue some serious thought.(But yes it could be said that i need to get out more! )
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Old 24-11-05, 10:33 PM   #8
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Jordan wrote:

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Er, yes. SVs don't have slipper clutches
Is that the best you can add to this debate mate? I am very surprised at you!


Well what more do you want! Unless having the back wheel sliding about all over the place, you gotta blip!
Not if you have already slowed to an appropriate speed for the gear you change down to.
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Old 24-11-05, 10:34 PM   #9
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Thank you Mike!
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Old 24-11-05, 10:34 PM   #10
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Blip gives a smoother downchange, I'm not mechanical enough to be able to explain why, it just feels smoother to me, i am sure it have something to do with revs and predicted engine revs when you let the clutch out in the lower gear you have just selected, also I think it might have something to do with spining up the gearbox internals to the right speed.

I do it in the car as well, well more double de-clutch really same reason gives a smoother down change IMHO

Of course I could be talking complete B*ll*cks it wouldnt be the first time
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