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14-02-06, 08:39 PM

I posted before on a thread about the oiler- asking what kind of mileage to expect from a properly set unit between fills. It would seem that 500 or so miles is reasonable and so after having done 2000 or so from new with a dealer fitted oiler, I got concerned

.

The oiler installation itself is very neat with the reservoir bolted securely and neatly under the pillion seat. This of course allows for easy refilling (eventually it had seemed!) and adjustment to suit differing temperatures etc. All other piping and delivery tube placement looks as good as I could expect also. Why then was the oiler not using it's contents?

Well- after looking at the Scottoiler website and the fitting guides (including one specifically for SVs

), I realised that the delivery tube was running with its angled cut AGAINST the sprocket. Despite looking like the right way of doing things, this is the opposite to what Scottoiler recommend. Flexing the delivery tube away from the sprocket, I poked a thin, stiff wire into the first inch or so to clear out any silt. BINGO! Running the bike at tickover, I was able to set the flow to allow the prescribed delivery of 2 drops per minute.

The next step was to turn the tube opening away from the sprocket surface. It would seem that silt was being pushed into the opening because of this positioning. Using a pair of pliers to grip the delivery tube without crushing, I gently rotated the tube 180 degrees. Job done. Oil is now being delivered to where it's needed and I'm kind of looking forward to refilling the reservoir.

Keep an eye on those tubes folks.

Garry

Sid Squid · 14-02-06, 10:24 PM

I always angle the pipe with the cut toward the sprocket, but not touching it, I find this the best way, and several sets of chains and sprockets over the last fifteen or so years have agreed.

embee · 14-02-06, 11:41 PM

Like Sid says.

I have fitted my Scotty to supply the oil through the small black capillary pipe to the side of the front (g/box) sprocket through a steel guide tube, but the principle is the same for the rear.

This arrangement holds the delivery pipe in a very precise place relative to the sprocket, which I reckon is the secret to getting the best from them.

I set it so that as a drop forms on the end of the black pipe, it reaches the surface of the sprocket and gets "picked off". You can watch this in "prime" setting. That way it always stays clear and ensures the oil goes onto the sprocket and doesn't get blown around (wasted and messy).

15-02-06, 08:51 AM

Do these chain oilers work on o-ringed chains, by that will it prolong the life of the chain as none of the oil is penetrating into the chain and on to the bearing surfaces, would a wipe down with an oily rag to take the muck off and to leave an oily surface to prevent rust do the same?

15-02-06, 10:28 AM

I had a problem with my Scottoiler not delivering enough oil. I live pretty close to the Scottoiler place so popped round and one of the guys there had a look.

He actually trimmed something inside the Scottoiler slightly to increase the flowrate overall and refitted for me. What I then found strange was that he then recommended I fit the nozzle such that it was in light contact with the sprocket! He said this way the oil was forced round both sides of the sprocket and into where the chain needs it rather than being 'whipped' off when riding at speed! He said to check every 1000 mile or so and re-trim the delivery pipe if required...

I know this is kind of against what it says on their web site but it does work very well now. PS the guy (can't remember his name now!) was saying he used to be a mechanic in a Suzuki dealership so knew the bike pretty well too.

northwind · 15-02-06, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy owen

Do these chain oilers work on o-ringed chains, by that will it prolong the life of the chain as none of the oil is penetrating into the chain and on to the bearing surfaces, would a wipe down with an oily rag to take the muck off and to leave an oily surface to prevent rust do the same?

The oil isn't supposed to penetrate the o-rings, they're to seal the grease inside in and the stuff outside out. The oil is to prevent corrosion, abrasion, and to lubricate the metal-on-metal contact of the chain vs the sprockets.

14-02-06, 08:39 PM	#1
independentphoto Guest Posts: n/a	WARNING - Scottoiler contents lasting FOREVER I posted before on a thread about the oiler- asking what kind of mileage to expect from a properly set unit between fills. It would seem that 500 or so miles is reasonable and so after having done 2000 or so from new with a dealer fitted oiler, I got concerned . The oiler installation itself is very neat with the reservoir bolted securely and neatly under the pillion seat. This of course allows for easy refilling (eventually it had seemed!) and adjustment to suit differing temperatures etc. All other piping and delivery tube placement looks as good as I could expect also. Why then was the oiler not using it's contents? Well- after looking at the Scottoiler website and the fitting guides (including one specifically for SVs ), I realised that the delivery tube was running with its angled cut AGAINST the sprocket. Despite looking like the right way of doing things, this is the opposite to what Scottoiler recommend. Flexing the delivery tube away from the sprocket, I poked a thin, stiff wire into the first inch or so to clear out any silt. BINGO! Running the bike at tickover, I was able to set the flow to allow the prescribed delivery of 2 drops per minute. The next step was to turn the tube opening away from the sprocket surface. It would seem that silt was being pushed into the opening because of this positioning. Using a pair of pliers to grip the delivery tube without crushing, I gently rotated the tube 180 degrees. Job done. Oil is now being delivered to where it's needed and I'm kind of looking forward to refilling the reservoir. Keep an eye on those tubes folks. Garry

14-02-06, 10:24 PM	#2
Sid Squid No, I don't lend tools. Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Skunk Works, Nth London Posts: 8,680	I always angle the pipe with the cut toward the sprocket, but not touching it, I find this the best way, and several sets of chains and sprockets over the last fifteen or so years have agreed. __________________ If an SV650 has a flat tyre in the forest and no-one is there to blow it up, how long will it be 'til someone posts that the reg/rec is duff and the world will end unless a CBR unit is fitted? A little bit of knowledge = a dangerous thing. "a deathless anthem of nuclear-strength romantic angst"

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14-02-06, 11:41 PM	#3
embee Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 2,804	Like Sid says. I have fitted my Scotty to supply the oil through the small black capillary pipe to the side of the front (g/box) sprocket through a steel guide tube, but the principle is the same for the rear. This arrangement holds the delivery pipe in a very precise place relative to the sprocket, which I reckon is the secret to getting the best from them. I set it so that as a drop forms on the end of the black pipe, it reaches the surface of the sprocket and gets "picked off". You can watch this in "prime" setting. That way it always stays clear and ensures the oil goes onto the sprocket and doesn't get blown around (wasted and messy).

15-02-06, 08:51 AM	#4
andy owen Guest Posts: n/a	Do these chain oilers work on o-ringed chains, by that will it prolong the life of the chain as none of the oil is penetrating into the chain and on to the bearing surfaces, would a wipe down with an oily rag to take the muck off and to leave an oily surface to prevent rust do the same?

15-02-06, 10:28 AM	#5
fubber Guest Posts: n/a	I had a problem with my Scottoiler not delivering enough oil. I live pretty close to the Scottoiler place so popped round and one of the guys there had a look. He actually trimmed something inside the Scottoiler slightly to increase the flowrate overall and refitted for me. What I then found strange was that he then recommended I fit the nozzle such that it was in light contact with the sprocket! He said this way the oil was forced round both sides of the sprocket and into where the chain needs it rather than being 'whipped' off when riding at speed! He said to check every 1000 mile or so and re-trim the delivery pipe if required... I know this is kind of against what it says on their web site but it does work very well now. PS the guy (can't remember his name now!) was saying he used to be a mechanic in a Suzuki dealership so knew the bike pretty well too.