Ive Had Enough! - SV650.org

16-04-07, 07:38 PM

done all i can for the bloody front breaks! and they still wont stop me fast enough! no matter how hard i pull on the lever the front wont lock up or make the bike stoppie!
braided lines
rebuilt calipers
rebuilt master cylinder
bled and bled and bled and......you get the idea!
please someone help me out.
oh and no sugestions of up rating....ive no money as i have no job right now.
cheers.

Viney · 16-04-07, 07:46 PM

What on earth do you want? Why would you want the front wheel to lock? However, could be your discs, the only thing you havent changed!

I reckon go out and buy a bike with better brakes...not BREAKS!!

admin · 16-04-07, 07:58 PM

I found HH pads in my Curvy helped.

16-04-07, 07:58 PM

disks were changed!

and thanks for the spelling lesson!

16-04-07, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viney

What on earth do you want? Why would you want the front wheel to lock? However, could be your discs, the only thing you havent changed!

I reckon go out and buy a bike with better brakes...not BREAKS!!

to know the front brakes could lock rather than do nothing would be good.

16-04-07, 08:42 PM

I put a GSXR front end on, just for the brakes

a choice of 4 or 6 pot calipers

northwind · 16-04-07, 10:59 PM

That's probably not entirely helpful. Have you changed pads? Cleaned and deglazed them? Tried another one the same on a spurious test ride from a dealer to see if they work any better? (not endorsing it, just saying it happens, y'know

)

16-04-07, 11:20 PM

could i ask how do you deglaze em with emory paper or summit can you do that to the discs too

northwind · 16-04-07, 11:29 PM

I've never actually had to do it, never had a glazed pad to deglaze

But yep, abrasive paper. Not sure what grit would be best.

17-04-07, 12:41 AM

Are you breaking them in correctly (no pun intended). Most pads and rotors have a specific break-in procedure to burnish them. Also, did you rebuild the parts yourself or did you purchase them as remanufactured? Either way the quality can really suffer, it's sometimes worth it just to get new replacement parts. (Especially when it comes to master cylinders, if the bore is even slightly overlarge the seals wont do their job and you'll get nothing but sponge). Finally, how did you bleed your master cylinder and calipers? Most master cylinder's have a bench-bleed procedure (prior to mounting on the bike). Also, you have to make sure that the bleeder screw is at the highest point of the caliper when bleeding a dry system, or you'll get air trapped in the interior of the caliper. Even with all those precautions, bleeding can be extremely tedious and need to be repeated occasionally for weeks before you'll get all the air out. Good luck getting it sorted out!

PS - if your pads are glazed they're essentially junk. Glazing comes about when you've overheated the pad (generally from not following proper break-in procedures) and the "glue" that holds the friction material together actually boils to the surface of the pad.

16-04-07, 07:38 PM	#1
socommk23 Guest Posts: n/a	Ive Had Enough! done all i can for the bloody front breaks! and they still wont stop me fast enough! no matter how hard i pull on the lever the front wont lock up or make the bike stoppie! braided lines rebuilt calipers rebuilt master cylinder bled and bled and bled and......you get the idea! please someone help me out. oh and no sugestions of up rating....ive no money as i have no job right now. cheers.

16-04-07, 07:46 PM	#2
Viney Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In the shadows to the left Posts: 7,700	Re: Ive Had Enough! What on earth do you want? Why would you want the front wheel to lock? However, could be your discs, the only thing you havent changed! I reckon go out and buy a bike with better brakes...not BREAKS!!

16-04-07, 07:58 PM	#3
admin John T Mega Poster Join Date: May 2003 Location: Shrewsbury, Shrops, UK Posts: 2,524	Re: Ive Had Enough! I found HH pads in my Curvy helped. __________________ Admin for this forum and the main site. John@sv650.org

16-04-07, 07:58 PM	#4
socommk23 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ive Had Enough! disks were changed! and thanks for the spelling lesson!

16-04-07, 08:42 PM	#6
svrash Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ive Had Enough! I put a GSXR front end on, just for the brakes a choice of 4 or 6 pot calipers

16-04-07, 10:59 PM	#7
northwind Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the garage where I belong Posts: 17,083	Re: Ive Had Enough! That's probably not entirely helpful. Have you changed pads? Cleaned and deglazed them? Tried another one the same on a spurious test ride from a dealer to see if they work any better? (not endorsing it, just saying it happens, y'know ) __________________ "We are the angry mob, we read the papers every day We like what we like, we hate what we hate But we're oh so easily swayed"

16-04-07, 11:20 PM	#8
jonnygman Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ive Had Enough! could i ask how do you deglaze em with emory paper or summit can you do that to the discs too

16-04-07, 11:29 PM	#9
northwind Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the garage where I belong Posts: 17,083	Re: Ive Had Enough! I've never actually had to do it, never had a glazed pad to deglaze But yep, abrasive paper. Not sure what grit would be best. __________________ "We are the angry mob, we read the papers every day We like what we like, we hate what we hate But we're oh so easily swayed"

17-04-07, 12:41 AM	#10
Scrapper Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ive Had Enough! Are you breaking them in correctly (no pun intended). Most pads and rotors have a specific break-in procedure to burnish them. Also, did you rebuild the parts yourself or did you purchase them as remanufactured? Either way the quality can really suffer, it's sometimes worth it just to get new replacement parts. (Especially when it comes to master cylinders, if the bore is even slightly overlarge the seals wont do their job and you'll get nothing but sponge). Finally, how did you bleed your master cylinder and calipers? Most master cylinder's have a bench-bleed procedure (prior to mounting on the bike). Also, you have to make sure that the bleeder screw is at the highest point of the caliper when bleeding a dry system, or you'll get air trapped in the interior of the caliper. Even with all those precautions, bleeding can be extremely tedious and need to be repeated occasionally for weeks before you'll get all the air out. Good luck getting it sorted out! PS - if your pads are glazed they're essentially junk. Glazing comes about when you've overheated the pad (generally from not following proper break-in procedures) and the "glue" that holds the friction material together actually boils to the surface of the pad.