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Old 05-01-10, 11:31 AM   #11
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I'm still wondering what wizzbang means by not as good. Obviously the setup might not be perfect out of the box but if you'd fitted AK20s chances are they'd benefit from a shim or 2 swapped around to suit the nuances of your own bike, style and local temperatures...
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Old 05-01-10, 12:25 PM   #12
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I'm still wondering what wizzbang means by not as good. Obviously the setup might not be perfect out of the box but if you'd fitted AK20s chances are they'd benefit from a shim or 2 swapped around to suit the nuances of your own bike, style and local temperatures...
I'm waiting to see if anyone on the US forum has really tried these out (other than bouncing up & down on a static bike). The only way I could see them being "not as good" compared to the racetech ones is if they are badly machined, or the shims are poor quality and don't seal.

For the money it would be worth a gamble, but as you need to drill out damper rod holes and cut down spacers to fit them, it wouldn't be easy to revert to standard if they don't work that well.
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For price all you would need to do is flatten the sealing surfaces on the emulator on a bit of glass with fine emery.

They aren't shims like in a cartridge so I don't think the quality of those would matter much, shims in cartridge are made of a specific spring steel because they need to flex so well and consistently, these emulators just use checkplates.

Spacers are easy to find/remake and IMO the damper rod mods are easy to undo.
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Old 05-01-10, 03:50 PM   #14
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but valves are made in taiwan so they should be OK!

So are harleys
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Old 05-01-10, 11:42 PM   #15
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I'm waiting to see if anyone on the US forum has really tried these out
You mean this thread?

http://forum.svrider.com/showthread....=emulator+deal
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Old 06-01-10, 12:04 AM   #16
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That thread is worth it just for this curvy pic:

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Old 09-01-10, 05:24 PM   #17
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Good spot Chris,

I will have a think about purchasing a set. Emulators were on my shopping list anyway but £140 was outside what I can justify at present.

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Old 09-01-10, 05:37 PM   #18
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2001 ZX6R, and a 2000 SV650S that used to belong to Anna.

It's pretty standard but is something of an exercise in how much you can get out of something for no money, as the whole bike's worth maybe £500 Rides well enough and used it to Mark 2 up on AR09

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Old 10-01-10, 09:11 PM   #19
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These emulators, can they be used as is, in a standard fork with standard springs, or is it better to upgrade springs etc when fitting them? If so, linear or progressive?

Ive ordered some so need to decide if i am upgrading the rest. Anything else worth doing to the forks while im taking them apart?
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Springs for sure. Linear. Also oil, 15W or 20W depending what springs. Also depending on the specific oils viscosity.
And you know about the mods needed to the damper rods right? Look for some posts by tovar on that svrider thread... you drill bottom holes out to 11mm and close off top small one.


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