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Old 17-03-08, 06:04 PM   #21
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Cheers Pete, but I need a 'jack up back to where it was' set of dog bones really.
I've been on the blower to the local suzuki dealer today for some so that should sort it....
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Old 18-03-08, 08:40 AM   #22
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Cheers Pete, but I need a 'jack up back to where it was' set of dog bones really.
I've been on the blower to the local suzuki dealer today for some so that should sort it....
Or you could try a wanted ad on here. Must be a few peeps with old DB lying around.
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Old 18-03-08, 06:14 PM   #23
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Or you could try a wanted ad on here. Must be a few peeps with old DB lying around.
Guess I should have really. I did scan the for sale section
Ah well ordered from the dealer now 30 quid so not so bad I spose...
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Old 18-03-08, 07:05 PM   #24
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a word of advice:
it will negatively affect the way the bike handles!

i lowered my wifes sv (she is 5'4'', lowered 1.5''), got the bones from ebay
http://cgi.ebay.ca/99-02-SUZUKI-SV65...742.m153.l1262
(this is 1.5'' lowering for 99-02 BTW, also available 1 & 2'' lowering)
the bike looked... well not right. the tail was sitting too low, and it handled like a Hardly...
to correct it i dropped the forks by ~1.5'' as well, it made it better, but still far from what the bike handled like in stock form. after riding it few times, she asked me to swap them back to stock, even though she is hardly touching the ground that way...

lowering itself is easy enough to do, i was done in 20 min, i do suggest you keep the original DB's though, as you might not like it....

in hindsight i should have went 1'' lower, or even less if possible. if modyfying seat/droping front end makes her low enough for you, i'd suggest sticking with just that...

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Old 18-03-08, 07:14 PM   #25
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a word of advice:
it will negatively affect the way the bike handles!

i lowered my wifes sv (she is 5'4'', lowered 1.5''), got the bones from ebay
http://cgi.ebay.ca/99-02-SUZUKI-SV65...742.m153.l1262
(this is 1.5'' lowering for 99-02 BTW, also available 1 & 2'' lowering)
the bike looked... well not right. the tail was sitting too low, and it handled like a Hardly...
to correct it i dropped the forks by ~1.5'' as well, it made it better, but still far from what the bike handled like in stock form. after riding it few times, she asked me to swap them back to stock, even though she is hardly touching the ground that way...

lowering itself is easy enough to do, i was done in 20 min, i do suggest you keep the original DB's though, as you might not like it....

in hindsight i should have went 1'' lower, or even less if possible. if modyfying seat/droping front end makes her low enough for you, i'd suggest sticking with just that...

cheers!
That appears to be the link for the older ones, mine's new. I've orderd them from banditrob in the UK. Will ride it first as normal and see what difference it makes. Yes, I am keeping the originals. And why would I drop the front end if I'm only lowering the seat? That doesn't sound right to me.
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Old 18-03-08, 07:22 PM   #26
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That appears to be the link for the older ones, mine's new. I've orderd them from banditrob in the UK. Will ride it first as normal and see what difference it makes. Yes, I am keeping the originals. And why would I drop the front end if I'm only lowering the seat? That doesn't sound right to me.
the reason for droping the front is to keep the changes to rake/trail to minimum. droping the back only will change them significantly

Rake: The angle in degrees of the steering neck from the vertical.
Trail: Distance defined by vertical line from axle to ground and intersect of centerline of steering neck and ground

These two values decide how the bike handles ...
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Old 18-03-08, 07:26 PM   #27
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the reason for droping the front is to keep the changes to rake/trail to minimum. droping the back only will change them significantly

Rake: The angle in degrees of the steering neck from the vertical.
Trail: Distance defined by vertical line from axle to ground and intersect of centerline of steering neck and ground

These two values decide how the bike handles ...
I think I know what you mean know. Lower the back with just 1 inch and lower the front forks. As said thought you meant combination of lowering seat and dropping front end.

Thanks for the explanation. It's my second bike I'm lowering and rake yep know that one from my other bike which is well-known for its rake but won't dare to mention that again for fear of being slated again. Such is life on a bikeforum.
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Old 18-03-08, 07:29 PM   #28
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That appears to be the link for the older ones, mine's new. I've orderd them from banditrob in the UK. Will ride it first as normal and see what difference it makes. Yes, I am keeping the originals. And why would I drop the front end if I'm only lowering the seat? That doesn't sound right to me.
By changing dogbones you are dropping the entire rear of the bike by effectively rotating it backwards around the front wheel axle as a pivot. The forks will be 'leaning' backwards as a result of this so raising the forks in teh yolks will compensate for this. Dont go mad though as you may then have clearance problems where the front mudguard fouls the bike as the suspension compresses.

Better in my opinion to replace or modify the seat itself so that the bike attitude is unaltered.
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Old 18-03-08, 07:40 PM   #29
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By changing dogbones ......

Better in my opinion to replace or modify the seat itself so that the bike attitude is unaltered.
my point exactly. and these bikes have a couch-cushion seat, so removing an inch from the seat shouldn't be a big issue (i hope, that's my job for the comming weekend...).
i wish any of my bikes would have seat as comfy and soft as this....
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Old 19-03-08, 10:26 AM   #30
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Ok a few facts for you:

* Dogbones ?15 and easy job.
* Lowering seat or new seat could be up to ?85 if you have to have someone else doing it for you.
* I've heard lots of good reports from people on this forum who have gone for the longer dogbones. Friendly people (mainly girls to be honest) who get in touch via PM (as they probably like me are not keen on the technical discussions as a result of it).
* Agreed that it's better not to have to do anything to perfomance of bike but it's a naked don't forget, I'm not in it for 'racing' like a lot of SV-ers on this forum are (the SVs-ers). So losing a bit of whatever is not important to me.
* different people ride different bikes for different reasons.
* As the seat is a more complicated and expensive job that's the next option should the bike not be low enough for my legs yet.
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