!70 Remould

Tomahawk remoulds are alright, used 'em before. A few tyre fitters won't fit them for you so best to ask if you turn up with some and loose wheels.
I want some orange remoulds for my black SV

Yes, that's 150mph iirc?

Maybe remoulds have an undeserved bad name, but I buy so few tyres that I really couldn't see the point of "risking it". It would never occur to me consider remoulds.

1 last question: Did it come with any usage limitation conditions or can you treat it like you would any top brand ZR rated tyre?

Originally Posted by sinbad

Yes, that's 150mph iirc?

Maybe remoulds have an undeserved bad name, but I buy so few tyres that I really couldn't see the point of "risking it". It would never occur to me consider remoulds.

1 last question: Did it come with any usage limitation conditions or can you treat it like you would any top brand ZR rated tyre?

I didn't buy it new ... it actually came on a spare wheel .. as I had it, I thought I might aswell use it ...

If it is ZR rated it is ZR rated ... one could presume it has been tested to/at ZR conditions to be allowed that stamp?!?! ... to be fair you will have to have an awesome SV to get anywhere near ZR rating ... my bike refuses to go over ~120 (14t front) ... so ZR is technically OTT ...

So come on then boyz, what you got to say about the ZR rating?!!?

Prepared to reconsider your preconceptions?!?!

[rictus01]

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S

So come on then boyz, what you got to say about the ZR rating?!!?

Prepared to reconsider your preconceptions?!?!

As I've said I've tried these, and you're right they are ZR rated, and this was just after a couple of mags and MSN had just done a review on them saying how wonderful they were, As I was going threw six or seven rears a year it seemed the ideal solution.

However after the incident my perspection changed somewhat and saving a few quid at the risk of my neck seemed less inviting.

I had a nice long letter from Koncord, explaining about a malfunctioning temprature sensor on one of the production line machines and how it was so extrodinary that this tyre should have made it threw to the point of sale, would I except a brand new pair of Bridgestone tyres by way of appology.

I must say that they rode quite well (although only single compound) on the road,although of course I never had them lng enough to find out the durability.

I'm all for making riding more affordable, but safety has to come first, perhaps I was just unlucky, but it would be foolish to fit them again after such a near call.

I hope you are lucky on them, But don't expect a rush of others to joint you.

Cheers Mark.

Originally Posted by rictus01

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Does sound like you had a bad time of it, I can understand your apprehension, I’d be the same. But it does sound like you were unlucky and got a Friday afternoon one (people have had that with branded tyres) that’s not to say every one sheds its tread, if it did then it’d never get its ZR classification.

I am not dismissing the fact that they might be inferior to ‘New’ tyres, but I still reckon they could well be up to the job required (unless you get an unlucky one like you did - but that can happen with 'New' tyres) …

What speed were you doing when yours delaminated?

[rictus01]

I'd had the tyre for 3 days and done about 450 mile on it (had checked it each evening as although I'd used part worn before they were my first remoulds), coming home from Bracknell passed Hampton court so maybe 60 mph, in the dark (no street lighting on that section).

Now over the years I've got to now what just about every sound vibration bump and bang on a motorbike means, although I don't have a great deal of mechanical sympathy for bikes (use them like they were made for) I do have mechanical empathy an know what's going on just about all the time, you can imagine when this happened, the bike turned into a killing machine and only fast recations and wide flat bars saved an otherwise nasty off. the tyre didn't burst but did throw a sectoin of tread down to the supporting structure.

I looked into the manufactor of these tyres in greater detail after this incident, and Koncord were helpful with details, it seems the preperation of the tyre before the tread is applied is done in a different way to new tyres and very temprature critical (it's a step new tyres don't go threw), as the the ZR rating I also asked about this, the critiria is much the same as any other tyre, X amount are tested and these are randomly selected from production runs, so although it's possible for any tyre to fail, it's still more likely a remould will delaminate when that failure happens.

Having said all that, I've covered over one and a half million miles on motorbike tyres and that's the only one to have let me down apart from punctures, if it had been any other make, I wouldn't be using that make again.

It's an unnessisary risk, and it's dangerous enough out there with out it.

Cheers Mark.

Originally Posted by rictus01

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over 1.5 million miles?!?!

Holy carp ... how long have you been riding!?!?!? ... even over 100 years that is still over 15k miles a year ... 50 years over 30k miles ... 25 years (which going by your age is probably about right), over 60k miles a year ... thats over 164 miles a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year for 25 years ... you must have a sore botty!!

[rictus01]

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S

over 1.5 million miles?!?!

Holy carp ... how long have you been riding!?!?!? ... even over 100 years that is still over 15k miles a year ... 50 years over 30k miles ... 25 years (which going by your age is probably about right), over 60k miles a year ... thats over 164 miles a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year for 25 years ... you must have a sore botty!!

Last year was a bad year, had to get over the removal of a couple of toes, so not typical at all, but 37,600 miles, had the SV for 2 year 3 months and done 154,000 miles on it, riding on the road 31 years , never been without a bike and it's always been my main transport and passion, so not that hard to understand, personally can't get why anyone would want to use anything else ?

Or to put it in context, Bad day = tank and a half of fuel, good day = two or three .

[rictus01]

Just as a side issue, now I've quantified what biking means to me, take that away for nearly 6 months , throw in the prospect of Perhaps never riding again, and even if you can add degree of pain that makes it a short hop at most thing ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????


Welcome to my world.

Cheers Mark.