"33bhp?" Yes "i dont believe you, I'll seize your bike and take you to court"

[Biker Biggles]

As said above I would write everything down so you dont forget,and it counts heavily later if something is written down at the time or shortly after.I would also stop being fobbed off by bullsh1t at the nick and enter a WRITTEN complaint about your bike being taken without a reciept.The stuff about due reasons for it can come out later but get something put down officially now.
If what you say here is true I think you have been dealt with outrageously and should ultimately get a result.

[Bibio]

Originally Posted by Flameboy

still no receipt for the bike... the Police officer seems to think he's perfectly in the right not giving me anything, I have been in contact with a higher ranking officer but he's not to sure on the situation either. about to call again now.

no m8 your not getting it. you need to contact a lawyer right now.

if you dont get legal representation on this matter you are a ferking plonker and deserve everything you get.

do you get it now, they have done wrong and you are letting them.

Aye right Bibio! Don't give the boy a hard time! It's a Sunday, I'm quite sure he can wait til the morning to contact his solicitor.

Originally Posted by Flameboy

Not at first, I think i was more than compliant, i was happy for the other officer to test ride the bike see if he believed it was restricted, what frustrated me was when he arrived, made a call to someone that told him about this "plate" and i know that nothing exists, i did get a little more defensive but in my opinion, rightly so when they're saying I'm going to have to defend myself in front of a magistrate for not displaying something that does not exist?

they test rode your bike to check if its restricted? can they do that?

Can I just say that the restriction attached plates do actually exist - I've seen two on different bikes (an RS125 that had been restricted to learner level had one on the top yoke, and a GPshed 500 that had been restricted to 25kW had one by the headstock).

Not going to comment on the legal aspect though, as there are much better qualified people lurking around for that.

A s165 seizure with no paperwork? A PC, Sgt, vehicle inspector and an Insp who all don't know the law? A PC test riding a bike to see if it's restricted?

I'll freely admit there are plenty of hopeless coppers out there as with any other profession, but is this a wind up?I just cannot believe - knowing what I do - that this would happen. This all just seems to be weird to be exactly how you say.

Yeh, like I said at the beginning of the thread, I get the impression there is something more to this. I have NEVER heard of anyones bike being seized to prove restriction.

oops

This is a record of what's happened in my eyes. Excuse the bad grammar or poor use of words


Incident occurred, 24th April around 16:00
I was riding with a pillion passenger at the time and had pulled into the centre of the road (yes there was a large divider i didnt just sit in the middle of the road) to talk to a friend who was crossing, the unmarked police car pulled up in front of me from the opposite direction and asked me to go turn around at the roundabout and pull up on the correct side of the road to talk to my friend. I did as they asked, they then turned around and followed me around the roundabout and as I had pulled up to my friend after doing as they asked, they then pulled up behind me again as if they were asking me to move on again, I then road off into the near left hand side car park, I heard the sound of the sirens and pulled over into the car park as I had intended to. They asked if the bike was mine and if I had a drivers licence, I did and gave it to pc greaves as he asked for it, I asked what the problem was and he said “I looked too young to be riding a motorbike that size” he then got back into the car. A few minutes later he wound down the window and asked me if the bike was restricted to =>25kw (33bhp) I replied yes, he wound the window back up and spoke to his college P.C 874 “Briags?” they then both got out of the car and asked if I could prove it was restricted, I could not as there is no legally required certificate or plate that would show the bike is restricted, They then called a sergeant and told me he’d come and test ride the bike to see if he believed it was restricted. Once he had arrived 10/20 minutes later he said the bike would have to be seized, he then called I assume, fillongly garage to arrange for it to be towed away, on the phone he also asked if the bike should have any markings to show that it is restricted, he then told me that there should be a plate visible on the bike that would allow the police to check if it was restricted and fitted by a professional, I then debated whether this plate existed as I was sure it does not, pc grieaves then told me the bike would be tested by a vehicle specialist to see if it was at its required power output (test taking place 26th/27th April) And IF it did pass, and I am confident it will. I would be prosecuted for not displaying the plate, I then argued the fact that this “plate” again does not exist as I’ve checked when restricting the bike. And I also asked where this “plate” is mentioned as a requirement, He said I would have to take that up with a magistrate in court. I strongly disputed the fact that the plate existed, he then took my address and a contact number, returned my license and sent me on my way.

I received no receipt/crime number or seizers notice from him and he left me with no way of contacting him. As I was quite annoyed I called a few friends and they helped me get a crime number, I went into the justice centre on the night of the 24th around 21:00/22:00 with the crime number and asked more about not receiving any paper work at the time and what exactly would happen, I was then given the names of the two officers who originally stopped me and a contact number for the coleshill traffic dept.
I called on 25th April around 10:30 asking to speak to pc greaves, I asked him why I wasn’t given any paper work he then said it was because that would allow me to get the bike back, and that's not going to happen until he has had it tested, he thought he'd given me a number to contact him on however he did not and when I said he hadn't he went onto saying "you were talking to me for about an hour and I'd assumed you'd taken my collar number". He also said “the burden of proof is on me to show that the bike is restricted, not for the police”. I also asked why the bike had been seized, He said “because it’s a 650cc motorcycle and you could not prove it was the correct power output for your license”, when I mentioned that there is no law requiring me to have a certificate or plate stating that the bike is restricted, “He now says, a certificate or plate is not required by law but if stopped by the police you should be able to prove that the bike is restricted”.

I would guess the reason for seizure is DOTIAWL, and to prove the offence it needs dyno testing. It's just all these added extras to the story which just seem so peculiar!

Mind you, I'm only comparing it to where I work, it might be SOP where the OP is.