"33bhp?" Yes "i dont believe you, I'll seize your bike and take you to court"

[timwilky]

Similarly to what Embee has stated. I used to have to test prototype trucks. In order to accept a vehicle into the labs we would fully test it against the construction and use regs applicable at the time. We had huge manuals that dictated exactly what we would test and how.

I would think only very few places would have the capability of providing an evidential dyno run to demonstrate to a court that a motorcycle power output the design criteria of the restriction. Possibly such places as MIRA could have the equipment and capability.

Obviously if pseudo power enhancements have been fitted such air intake mods, exhaust mods then you may find yourself liable for that extra power should the test not prove in your favour.

Am sorry to hear of your situation FB hope all is resolved in you favour asap.... just a quick question for fishtits, MBK or any of the other serving officers on the org.... if i was stopped by you with reason to believe my bike was not restricted and i had offered to strip my bike (1999 naked curvy) on the side of the road down to the carbs and show you the slides with the holes in (genuine suzuki restrictor kit) would you be willing to accept the offer and the time it took?? or would you insist that the bike was siezed and tested??

tbf strat, that wouldnt take as long as it would take for the breakdown to come to collect it in the first place.

Flame, I feel for you, I really really do. You are caught in a situ where jobsworth thinks that he had pinned something decent on you (riding without a license, stolen bike, whatever) has pulled you over to find subsequently that theres nothing "meaty" going on whatsoever, so has had to completely backpedal and scrape the very bottom of the barrell to pin something on you.

Unfortunately, at the bottom of nearly every new bikers barrell is the whole restriction malarky. I recently had a run in with plod for the same thing, but im past my period. My license still has the print, but its down to them to work out the time periods at the road side.

I was far more fortunate than you and just given a producer - which I believe is what really should have happened here. Police people of the org can say all they like about how the whole establishment isnt like it, but every experience ive had with the police on any motorcycle has been entirely negative. I have had a couple of run ins in my car, which on the other hand has been easy and pain free, they are (in the most part) so anti motorcyclists its un-true. Hence all the extra rules regulations and legislation surrounding us today.

I do not hate the police as a whole, I hate the individual *******s in the force who are on a mission to make your day a missery just because they can.

I hope you get this sorted, and as mentioned before, get a legal eagle on the case asap, make sure you have any time off re-embursed, any taxi fares paid for etc, or at least lay it on as thick as you can and try and make an example of them.

Originally Posted by leedsmatt7

tbf strat, that wouldnt take as long as it would take for the breakdown to come to collect it in the first place.

The reasoning behind this is that I have no other form of transport and a 100 mile a day commute, I would quite happily spend that time at the roadside to avoid the hassle of trying to get my bike back....

you get a responce of im not a mechanic so i would'nt know what im looking at so its getting lifted,

A producer doesn't work in this example because the crux of the matter is whether or not the bike is restricted, it's no good producing a DL and insurance at a police station if you remain in the dark over whether or not it's restricted.

Fishtits, you are right, sorry. Even so, I still cant help but think it is a tad harsh, especially given the manor in which everything has been conducted so far. The problem I have is the police must spend so much of their time on crappy cases like this one, when there are drivers out there with no tax, insurance or MOT writing other peoples vehicles off at those peoples expense. Could they not use some common sense, guage what kind of person they are dealing with a little better and actually have a little belief in what the poor bloke is trying to tell them.

Originally Posted by ShadFX

Fishtits, you are right, sorry. Even so, I still cant help but think it is a tad harsh, especially given the manor in which everything has been conducted so far. The problem I have is the police must spend so much of their time on crappy cases like this one, when there are drivers out there with no tax, insurance or MOT writing other peoples vehicles off at those peoples expense. Could they not use some common sense, guage what kind of person they are dealing with a little better and actually have a little belief in what the poor bloke is trying to tell them.

It does seem a bit harsh given what the OP has told us.... But maybe these Coppers met the OP, gauged what kind of person he was, and still had his bike off him.

I've tried to make the point about convincing the Coppers to believe you by taking steps such as carrying a dyno chart or letter etc, but people have poo-poo'ed that idea. You say the Police should have a bit of belief in what they're told - baring in mind we're lied to on a daily basis - yet most people don't seem overly keen on helping themselves or trying to convince us they're telling the truth. Can't have it both ways!

I'd be more annoyed at the manner in which it's been carried out, rather than the reasons why it's been done. If the Officers had taken the time to explain the reasons why they believe it to be unrestricted, the fact they were seizing it and under what powers, where the bike would be going, how to get the bike back, where the investigation was going from there etc, the OP might have been less ****ed because he at least had some idea of whu it had happened - even if he didn't agree with it.

The OP went to the nick last night about 18:30 to see the Duty Insp... I don't think he's posted the outcome of that visit? Would be interesting.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Fishtits

I've tried to make the point about convincing the Coppers to believe you by taking steps such as carrying a dyno chart or letter etc, but people have poo-poo'ed that idea. You say the Police should have a bit of belief in what they're told - baring in mind we're lied to on a daily basis - yet most people don't seem overly keen on helping themselves or trying to convince us they're telling the truth. Can't have it both ways!

Simply because it's an inconvenience. You've complied with the law, you should not be harassed about it.
When someone gets murdered you don't arrest the world on suspicion of it, you start with some suspects.

I'm not saying you shouldn't carry a dyno printout or what have you, I'm saying you shouldn't have to.