"33bhp?" Yes "i dont believe you, I'll seize your bike and take you to court"

[dizzyblonde]

Originally Posted by Flameboy

The reason they pulled me was, they said " i looked to young to be riding such a big bike " i wasnt speeding when the spoke to me, i was pulled to the side of the road talking to a friend (not on the pavement) I then road off as they asked and they perused me

Originally Posted by Messie

If all is as written then it's disgusting. However I am confused about a couple of things about the incident.
Was Flameboy riding when asked to pull over, or already stopped and talking to someone at the side of the road? If riding, how on earth can they estimate how old e was with lid and gear on? If stopped how could they be sure he was riding said vehicle without proper license?
Just playing devils advocate for a mo - something is definately not right. No paperwork - not genuine police? or there was more to the stop than first suggested?

So to your question Messie, It seems the lad was already parked up at the side of the road...

[Drew Carey]

Flameboy.....have you confirmed that the police have your bike and what they are doing in terms of a receipt??????

If not, I'm not being funny mate, by WTF are you still doing here / sat at home!?!?!?!?!? Someone has taken your bike with no documentation given. You NEED to go down the police station now.

[Messie]

Ah yes I see that now on re-reading. Stopped by the pavement on the bike, chatting.

Why didn't they check his details when they asked him to ride off? Why wait and stop him later for that?

Hopefully he's at the copshop now trying to sort it out

[Speedy]

I smell a big rat...

Surely if a Sargeant was involved the necessary paperwork/forms would have been issued!?

In my synical, suspicious view, I'd say there is a distinct possibility that these were fake police (not meaning PCSO's), they asked the OP to move away from a potential identifying witness (his friend he was chatting to) made him stop away from anyone else and stole his bike.

I would always ask for ID from a copper, especially if they're in plain clothes, but best to be on the safe side. And I'd have definitely asked for some sort of reciept as to where my bike was going.

THIS IS NOT GOOD.

visited the police station last night, still no official paper work just a few numbers to contact the officer and a crime number scribbled down. I just got off the phone with the police officer who pulled me and he said:

"the burden of proof is on me to show that the bike is restricted, it's not for the police to decide"

The reason the bike was seized: It's a 650 and i couldn't prove it was at the correct power output for my license

He now says, a certificate or plate is not required by law but if stopped by the police you should be able to prove that the bike is restricted (a vehicle inspector told them about the "plate" REQUIREMENT.. that does not exist)

SO, it's not a requirement by law but if stopped the police can seize your bike for not having one? Great.


and I received no paper work because that would allow me to get the bike back, and that's not going to happen until he has had it tested, he thought he'd given me contact details and when i said he hadn't he went onto saying "you were talking to me for an hour and I'd assumed you'd taken my number and name from my uniform"


Waiting until Monday now when they test my bike, or should i be going back down to the police station?

My first run in with the police out on the road, I'll be making sure to check a few things next time this happens.

[Drew Carey]

Personally.....I would still be wanting to speak to his superiors. That is not acceptable in my view.

[Messie]

Talking to you for an hour!!! I'd sue them for boring you to death! At least it does seem like genuine, if jobsworth, police

[Speedy]

Originally Posted by Flameboy

visited the police station last night, still no official paper work just a few numbers to contact the officer and a crime number scribbled down. I just got off the phone with the police officer who pulled me and he said:

"the burden of proof is on me to show that the bike is restricted, it's not for the police to decide"

The reason the bike was seized: It's a 650 and i couldn't prove it was at the correct power output for my license

He now says, a certificate or plate is not required by law but if stopped by the police you should be able to prove that the bike is restricted (a vehicle inspector told them about the "plate" REQUIREMENT.. that does not exist)

SO, it's not a requirement by law but if stopped the police can seize your bike for not having one? Great.


and I received no paper work because that would allow me to get the bike back, and that's not going to happen until he has had it tested, he thought he'd given me contact details and when i said he hadn't he went onto saying "you were talking to me for an hour and I'd assumed you'd taken my number and name from my uniform"


Waiting until Monday now when they test my bike, or should i be going back down to the police station?

My first run in with the police out on the road, I'll be making sure to check a few things next time this happens.

That is ********.

If a vehicle is seized, they have to give you a reciept, listing all damage (if any) on the vehicle at time of seizure. (Met did this on a mates bike).

All they had to do was check you owned it, it was insured, legal to be on the road and give you a producer.

The date stated on restriction certificate would obviously have to be prior to you being stopped.

If you go down to the police station with proof of restriction, surely they have to release your bike.

How are they going to check it's restricted? A dyno?
What if they damage your bike when dyno-ing it?

You need to get legal advice like NOW!

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Flameboy

"the burden of proof is on me to show that the bike is restricted, it's not for the police to decide"

BS, burden of proof is on them to prove you are breaking the law.

Originally Posted by Speedy

How are they going to check it's restricted? A dyno?
What if they damage your bike when dyno-ing it?

You need to get legal advice like NOW!

Send them bill for new tyre

[Speedy]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Send them bill for new tyre

DAMN right!

I'd be bloody livid, I'd be down that police station right now demanding to see someone higher than the retard who took my bike.