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Old 25-08-05, 07:47 AM   #1
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Default Helen's starter motor

I think Helen's got a problem with her starter motor. If it's not that, then at least there is a problem with the bike.

It was fine on Tuesday, but yesterday, the starter motor no longer seems to engage with the engine. The motor definitely spins, you can hear it, but the engine does not turn over.

My worst fears are that the cog has no teeth left, but I think it more likely that the motor and the cogs may have just become disengaged somehow.

Does anyone have any experiences like this? Any advice? Things to look out for? Any thing I can check for. I'm sure the bike will bump-start, but that's not much good for little Helen.

Any thoughts and suggestions gratefully received.
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Old 25-08-05, 08:28 AM   #2
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I have a little experance, having missed out a bit when i rebuilt my enigne.

Does it make a high pitched wineing sound when you turn it over?

If they arn't aligned and it fires finally fires, um, i believe it can all go downhill very rapidly from that point, i.e. Metal cog wizzing arround generator area, dipositing metal into the oil while murdering your generator. Which, is a bad thing.

But to look at it, you have to remove the generator cover, and you may need to drain the oil to do that. Well i did on mine after leaking half of it over the garage floor.

I have a spare Starter Motor and Cog (all be it slightly worn but perfectly serviceable) if you want

Hope that helps, but im not a mechanic so i've more than likely screwd up this advise.

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Old 25-08-05, 08:37 AM   #3
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Yeah this is what I'm afraid of Dan.

Can the starter-motor be removed without draining the oil?

There's no high-pitched noise... just that of the starter-motor spinning.

Presume that if it's really necessary, we can get the clutch cover off without draining the oil, by lying the bike on it's side? Either way, draining the oil wouldn't be a problem as I think it needs doing soon anyway.

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Old 25-08-05, 08:38 AM   #4
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It's the starter motor clutch gone up-screen. It's a one-way bearing on the back of the flywheel - cost £160-ish, ex-stock Suzuki. ("They never go wrong, sir....but I've sold 20 this month! What a coincidence"). Mine went last month.

It's not difficult but you need to take the rotor off - if you haven't got the puller, DON'T buy one....I'll lend you mine.

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Old 25-08-05, 08:41 AM   #5
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160 squids?

Oh dear!
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160 squids?

Oh dear!
Mmmmm. (This sounds like MY Helen's response!!!)

The good news is that it's self-do-able and doesn't take too long to fix.....the bad news is that it ain't cheap!
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If that's the case... I think a visit to Suzuki with Warranty documents!
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If Nojoy with the dealer, and it's DIY, contact me.
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Outch 160quid!

Yes, you can remove the starter motor without draining the oil. And I also have a rotor puller (well when i pick it up off Jordan), and i proberly have a spare starter bearing on my other lump as well

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If that's the case... I think a visit to Suzuki with Warranty documents!
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