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Old 30-04-08, 08:44 AM   #1
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Tens of thousands of families will have to pay up to ?245 extra a year under new road tax rules after a covert government decision to include cars up to seven years old.
The Treasury admitted to The Times last night that it was quietly abolishing the exemption for older cars from the highest rates of vehicle excise duty. This means that owners of larger cars bought since March 2001 will find that their road tax will rise steeply from next April.
The increases are being introduced in two stages, with many owners who are now paying ?210 a year being charged ?300 in 2009 and up to ?455 in 2010.
The revelation comes amid motoring costs soar. Petrol prices reached ?5 a gallon yesterday. One consumer body believes that by next year it could cost ?84 to fill an average car with fuel

?The arrogance of Darling is astonishing. When questioned in a radio interview following the budget he suggested that those affected needn?t pay higher VED as they could buy new cars. Just how are they supposed to do that when food, council tax and mortgages are all up way above inflation??


http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/article3842848.ece
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Old 30-04-08, 08:45 AM   #2
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A 100% increase in tax in 2 years?
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Old 30-04-08, 08:54 AM   #3
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The only inscreasing cost in this country at the moment that truely bothers me is motoring costs.

I dont know what the answer is, and i can never see it going down.

The oil companies ride on the wave that oil is running out so can up the cost......and old Mr Darling will only need to get that money from elsewhere to fund other nations plight, our nations poor and apparently needy, aswell as funding the influx immigrants and migrant workers.

The only option would be to stop being so generous to other nations, as well as all the poor and other people who somehow manage to leach loads of benefits from all the various systems that the goverment introduced. (Which wont happen because its not politicaly correct)

I have just taken to not watching the news or reading papers anymore......it eases the stress and anger abit.

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Old 30-04-08, 09:08 AM   #4
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How about the extra billion in revenue is pushed in to a M-O-D-E-R-N all new rail network. We're a tiny country, it would cost bugger all.
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Old 30-04-08, 09:17 AM   #5
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The only inscreasing cost in this country at the moment that truely bothers me is motoring costs.

I dont know what the answer is, and i can never see it going down.

The oil companies ride on the wave that oil is running out so can up the cost......and old Mr Darling will only need to get that money from elsewhere to fund other nations plight, our nations poor and apparently needy, aswell as funding the influx immigrants and migrant workers.

The only option would be to stop being so generous to other nations, as well as all the poor and other people who somehow manage to leach loads of benefits from all the various systems that the goverment introduced. (Which wont happen because its not politicaly correct)

I have just taken to not watching the news or reading papers anymore......it eases the stress and anger abit.
Correct.

How can we as a nation help other countries when our own is in such a mess? We need to sort our own country out first.

I don't know what the answer is either. When petrol reached £1 per litre, I honestly thought there would be a public uprising. But we just roll over and carry on being royally shafted.

When will the public say enough is enough?
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My missus drives a used 2003 Mazda3 Sport. 2ltr N/A, petrol. ?205 tax per year. Went up maybe ?30 in the last year or two I think.

Gaffer in the work, newer 3 series BMW 2.0 turbo diesel. ?135 p.a.

Supposedly a new 2.0 td 1series BMW coming out. ?35 (Thirty Five!) p.a.


WTF?

How is that new BMW more "enviromentally friendly" than any sort of motorcycle? We should be tax exempt.




(Going to be forced to buy some dull taxi , belching black smoke everytime you boot it. )



Don't understand the car tax thing at all?
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Old 30-04-08, 09:20 AM   #7
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Tens of thousands of families will have to pay up to ?245 extra a year under new road tax rules after a covert government decision to include cars up to seven years old.
The Treasury admitted to The Times last night that it was quietly abolishing the exemption for older cars from the highest rates of vehicle excise duty. This means that owners of larger cars bought since March 2001 will find that their road tax will rise steeply from next April.
The increases are being introduced in two stages, with many owners who are now paying ?210 a year being charged ?300 in 2009 and up to ?455 in 2010.
The revelation comes amid motoring costs soar. Petrol prices reached ?5 a gallon yesterday. One consumer body believes that by next year it could cost ?84 to fill an average car with fuel

?The arrogance of Darling is astonishing. When questioned in a radio interview following the budget he suggested that those affected needn?t pay higher VED as they could buy new cars. Just how are they supposed to do that when food, council tax and mortgages are all up way above inflation??


http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol...cle3842848.ece
I do relatively few miles in the car, about 5k per year, same as the bike. It might not be the most fuel efficient at 30mpg, but I will use it less and less when (if!, but that's another moan ) I move so petrol costs aren't top of my concerns. Fortunately it's a 99 reg, so costs at the moment £190 to tax. I'd rather keep throwing money at that than buy a new one, so fingers crossed he doesn't start fiddling with the old engine capacity based system from pre-2001.

I bet that there will be a sudden drop in used car values for higher banded models when this kicks in too, meaning the cost of changing to something more efficient and "cheaper" is actually even more of an expense.
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Gaffer in the work, newer 3 series BMW 2.0 turbo diesel. ?135 p.a.

Supposedly a new 2.0 td 1series BMW coming out. ?35 (Thirty Five!) p.a.


WTF?

How is that new BMW more "enviromentally friendly" than any sort of motorcycle?


Don't understand the car tax thing at all?
More mpg, less CO2 emissions at a guess......
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Old 30-04-08, 09:23 AM   #9
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There is of course the humble twist and go 50cc option!!







DOH - WHAT AM I THINKING!!!???
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Old 30-04-08, 09:24 AM   #10
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Its based on CO2 emmisions. The new BMW probably pumps out 1/10 of the CO2 (A natural gas) than the old car does.
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