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Old 29-12-09, 01:35 PM   #11
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What is it with these damn hippies? There are so many people everywhere deserving of help, yet these scum waste their time on murderers, paeodophiles and drug traffickers. Thought for the day, kick amnesty international in the b*ll*cks.
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Old 29-12-09, 01:37 PM   #12
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What is it with these damn hippies? There are so many people everywhere deserving of help, yet these scum waste their time on murderers, paeodophiles and drug traffickers. Thought for the day, kick amnesty international in the b*ll*cks.
The main whinger on this guy's behalf is Reprieve Chris, so kick them in the corbals.
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Old 29-12-09, 01:40 PM   #13
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Pft same thing. Bunch of champagne communists bleating about this while snorting coke themselves. They should take a trip to Columbia and see what they think of drug trade then.

Ironically, what turmoil must they feel criticizing such a forward-thinking marxist regime lol.
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Old 29-12-09, 01:40 PM   #14
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The main whinger on this guy's behalf is Reprieve Chris, so kick them in the corbals.
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Old 29-12-09, 01:47 PM   #15
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My eldest has done some work summarising opinions for death row appeals in the States. Most she freely admits are blatantly guilty men looking for some form of clemency whereby a capital sentence will be commuted.

I have mixed views. I do not support the death sentence. However I also believe a country has the right to make their own legal system and penalties. and to implement their decisions free of hindrance from others.

I have spent enough time in the far east and China to know you do not smuggle drugs and think very carefully what prescription drugs you may carry with you. What may be legal here may get you locked up in other countries
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Old 29-12-09, 02:37 PM   #16
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What is it with these damn hippies? There are so many people everywhere deserving of help, yet these scum waste their time on murderers, paeodophiles and drug traffickers. Thought for the day, kick amnesty international in the b*ll*cks.
*Scumbag Ed proudly waves a bloody great flag for hippies and wastes time on drug smugglers*

I sincerely hope that none of you ever have to face the sort of ordeal that this man faced. At least the death was by injection, and not bullet to the back of the head. My experience of a great deal of litigation - admittedly mostly civil, just a small amount of criminal - tells me that there is always something you can say for somebody.

I hate the so called death 'penalty'. It is never justified and I am so thankful that we don't have it here, that it is part of our fundamental human rights that this hideous and grotesque punishment was got rid of nearly 50 years ago. Nothing will ever change my mind that nobody is entitled to put anyone else to death - remember the old Gandhi quote, 'an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.' Nope, not for Huntley, Brady, nor anyone else. As I've said on here before, if I were on a jury where a guilty finding meant death, I would refuse to convict.

And anyway you have all missed the point. China is entitled to its judicial system, corrupt and evil as it is. The point is that no mental health assessment was ever carried out on this man, except the ones undertaken earlier in this thread. He acted in a bizarre way that most people would struggle to understand. Why couldn't the Chinese have allowed access by a consultant psychiatrist? What did they have to lose?

And Brown and Miliband and all the rest of them will kick up a stink about the execution, but come New Year it will all be forgotten and we will have moved on to other things, like the upcoming general election, and the £120m in aid (source: the UK Government's Department For International Development website today) that we give to these odious corrupt repressive stinking murdering Chinese will continue as per normal, because when push comes to shove trade and business by mega corporations is more important than human life. Friends, that's the reality. Nice people, aren't they, the Chinese.
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*Scumbag Ed proudly waves a bloody great flag for hippies and wastes time on drug smugglers*

I sincerely hope that none of you ever have to face the sort of ordeal that this man faced. At least the death was by injection, and not bullet to the back of the head. My experience of a great deal of litigation - admittedly mostly civil, just a small amount of criminal - tells me that there is always something you can say for somebody.

I hate the so called death 'penalty'. It is never justified and I am so thankful that we don't have it here, that it is part of our fundamental human rights that this hideous and grotesque punishment was got rid of nearly 50 years ago. Nothing will ever change my mind that nobody is entitled to put anyone else to death - remember the old Gandhi quote, 'an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.' Nope, not for Huntley, Brady, nor anyone else. As I've said on here before, if I were on a jury where a guilty finding meant death, I would refuse to convict.

And anyway you have all missed the point. China is entitled to its judicial system, corrupt and evil as it is. The point is that no mental health assessment was ever carried out on this man, except the ones undertaken earlier in this thread. He acted in a bizarre way that most people would struggle to understand. Why couldn't the Chinese have allowed access by a consultant psychiatrist? What did they have to lose?

And Brown and Miliband and all the rest of them will kick up a stink about the execution, but come New Year it will all be forgotten and we will have moved on to other things, like the upcoming general election, and the £120m in aid (source: the UK Government's Department For International Development website today) that we give to these odious corrupt repressive stinking murdering Chinese will continue as per normal, because when push comes to shove trade and business by mega corporations is more important than human life. Friends, that's the reality. Nice people, aren't they, the Chinese.
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And anyway you have all missed the point. China is entitled to its judicial system, corrupt and evil as it is. The point is that no mental health assessment was ever carried out on this man, except the ones undertaken earlier in this thread. He acted in a bizarre way that most people would struggle to understand. Why couldn't the Chinese have allowed access by a consultant psychiatrist? What did they have to lose?
Well as I have pointed out previously Ed, this man was not diagnosed with a mental illness at any point. His odd behaviour and 'alleged' bi-polar disorder was only trotted out once he was sentenced to death. It does sound like his appeal demonstrated that he was unbalanced from what I have read, but I also understand that the Chinese system only allows for a condition diagnosed before the crime to be used as mitigation.
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I sincerely hope that none of you ever have to face the sort of ordeal that this man faced.

China is entitled to its judicial system, corrupt and evil as it is. The point is that no mental health assessment was ever carried out on this man, except the ones undertaken earlier in this thread.

He acted in a bizarre way that most people would struggle to understand.

when push comes to shove trade and business by mega corporations is more important than human life. Friends, that's the reality. Nice people, aren't they, the Chinese.
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And I sincerely hope that noone close to you ever has trouble with drug addiction.

No it isn't entitled to it, like any communist regime it was brought into being violently at the expense of hundreds of thousands of deaths.
But, no matter how much he says "awibble", he's still bloody guilty. You don't just find a few million quids worth of smack at the side of the road.

He acted in a bizarre way most people would struggle to understand. Yeah, sounds a lot like a criminal to me.

Chinese goods coming into this country are worth a lot of jobs. My Dads firm employs 60-80. I'd shoot a drug smuggler in the head to give 60-80 people jobs.
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Old 29-12-09, 03:13 PM   #20
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I'm a hippy at heart and hell if it wasn't for drug smugglers how would i get my own gear? The quality of drugs as gone way downhill in the last few years mainly due to the cops getting better at catching smugglers, dammit.

However, you smuggle drugs you take the risks and face the music if caught. Hence why i dont smuggle drugs or if i ever planned to i'd do it to a country who dont have the death penalty and have nice jails. Somewhere like Switzerland perhaps i might consider being a mule to.

Silly boy got caught and now he is trying every trick to not be killed, fair play, i'd do the same thing tbh. We say it on threads about speeding and things so why should he not try it when his very life is on the line?

BTW i've never run drugs for anyone but have taken personal bits thru customs in the past for mad weekends away
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