Motorcyle press are wrong... module one is NOT dangerous!

[hindle8907]

i think when im 21 in febuary i will go sit them both again so i can have me Restiction removed !!

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by hindle8907

it is a verry simple test imo but like some one say whats eays for some people is hard for others vice versa .

But isn't that the point of the new test..to make sure riders are all as capalbe as Me Magnum has shown he is and those that cant perform this move in the safety of an off road place will sure as hell fail to do it on the road and hence hit that pothole or whatever, whereas somone like magnum would easily avoid it and keep his wits and eyes on the road.

I recall the other thread about this topic a little while back, some people wer suggesting that because its too hard to do it's unfair. My point of view is that they should be getting taught better until they find the manouver a doddle as Magnum has. Until then they are simply not skilled enough in bike handling.

Congrats.

I don’t think the test is too difficult provided that there is some room for interpretation, which there currently isn’t. Bikers naturally come off the gas when a hazard is encountered and in inclement weather should change the way they ride. Neither of these the test accounts for. The U-turn without dabbing down is totally irrelevant to the real world. I know riders who make an effort not to dab down, but I can’t think of a situation when doing so is unsafe.

To rub salt in there is not equivalent strictures placed upon the potential car drivers.

TBH when i was presented with my hazard (citroen C5) i just braked like nothing else on earth in the hope that i may avoid the hazard. If i see hazards with enough time, I can swerve (like to avoid potholes or someone just nudging out of their driveway), but its hard to break out of those instincts to watch the object presenting danger. target fixation takes over

Originally Posted by Dave20046

did you do 'the manouvre' in the dry magpie?

Yep it was dry as anything. The swerve itself shouldnt give you any problems in the wet, but i can imagine the emergency stop would. I hope they take that into consideration...

Originally Posted by ranathari

Well done, magnum! When are you doing the second part?

Thanks . 8th July

[jamesterror]

Well Done.

Good luck with stage 2.

Originally Posted by Magnum

Yep it was dry as anything. The swerve itself shouldnt give you any problems in the wet, but i can imagine the emergency stop would. I hope they take that into consideration...
Thanks . 8th July

Well done for passing MOD1 but i'm not sure that we can consider you an 'expert witness' as you did it in the dry and the people who said it is dangerous fell off in the wet.

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by Alpinestarhero

TBH when i was presented with my hazard (citroen C5) i just braked like nothing else on earth in the hope that i may avoid the hazard. If i see hazards with enough time, I can swerve (like to avoid potholes or someone just nudging out of their driveway), but its hard to break out of those instincts to watch the object presenting danger. target fixation takes over

No doubt...but you can train and work round that my friend. Its all about train/practice.
Similar thing but completely different.... when i first started Martial Arts it was all i could do to get my footwork right. A lot of martial Arts is like learning to dance, you gotta have the right footwork to get you in the right place and in balance.
My instructor was forever drumming it into all of us to stop looking at our feet during the practicing of new moves. "You all know where your feet are...they're at the end of your legs. Why do you need to look at them when you only need to place them right?" After a while you just keep looking up and your spatial awareness takes over with your foot positioning.

Its a similar drill with object fixating, try and look away from the object and at clear or safer space. Much easier said than done of course. A good practice technique i have is to approch traffic lights and pretend to myself there is a pothole right in my path that i must avoid...while always looking at the red light. Obviously if you can do this at the same location on your daily commute it makes it easier. Failing that, deserted car parks are of course good places to practice too.

Originally Posted by Samurai Penguin

Well done for passing MOD1 but i'm not sure that we can consider you an 'expert witness' as you did it in the dry and the people who said it is dangerous fell off in the wet.

The people falling off in the wet are saying the entire test is unfit for purpose rather than admitting it's the combination of the braking distance not being increased in wet weather and them not doing enough training before the test.

[gruntygiggles]

I'll be doing mine in a few weeks and I've done a fair bit of research into the safetly concerns. There have been some serious accidents, broken bones and nasty injuries when attempting the swerve, but, without exception, these have all occurred in the wet, no accidents reported in the dry. I'm not bothered about doing it. I will expect proper training beforehand, have checked this with the school I am going to and if I fail, well, then so be it.....better than me getting on the road as an unprepared rider.

Stretch and I will be going to a car park somewhere round here when the babyblade arrives for me to practise clutch control. That's it, just time getting used to the clutch at next to zero speed so that I have a bit more control when I start my training.

I think for people like me, who will not be on a restricted license when I pass, it's super important that I learn properly and so failing and having to re-take a test in order to be safe on the roads for me and others is, IMO a good thing.