Finally rid of Vista!

Originally Posted by 600+

on dual boot with XP Pro and UBUNTU these days

my only grief is I can't get hotmail on the mail client at the moment

that would be it and I would get rid of XP for good

I thought you couldn't get hotmail on ANY mail client

I used to quite happily access hotmail using Firefox on mandrake10
I also used Trillian for Yahoo/ICQ/MSN (all at the same time sometimes )

Pete

well you can on outlook but yeah u're right

so i'm just trying to use it less till I get rid of it

Originally Posted by 600+

well you can on outlook but yeah u're right

so i'm just trying to use it less till I get rid of it

Run Windows Live Mail (Desktop) under WinE, and kiss goodbye to Windows forever.

I would, if my choices weren't dictated by office politics.

Ubuntu here to. I only dual boot as I like to play alot of games which are not generally linux compatible.

I also dual boot at work as I am trialling Ubuntu for a work environment OS.

If games ran in linux (i know about Wine but its not really practical) then I probable woudlnt have had windows for years now.

Baph - as always - pls explain WinE? what's that ?

Hasn't anyone tried VMWare? Too expensive perhaps?

WinE used to be known by the longer name of "Windows Emulator" until uncle Bill threatened to sue IIRC. Now "Wine" is a recursive acronym meaning "Wine Is Not an Emulator" and is the name of the project that allows you to execute programs originally written to run on M$ Windows under Linux.

The difference between Wine and VMWare is that wine creates an "environment" in which to execute a program. No windows license required.

VMWare on the other hand creates a "virtual machine" and hence requires a license for each virtual machine OS used (unless you use Linux on all those virtual machines :P).

I last used VMWare a few years back, but it seemed pretty neat ... you could "switch" between machines at the click of a button

Pete

Originally Posted by 600+

Baph - as always - pls explain WinE? what's that ?

Pretty much as Pedro68 said. Except he missed pointing you to their website. http://www.winehq.org/

Basically, run WinE, and you can run Windows applications, under Linux. Essentially all it does is map the Windows API to the corresponding functions under Linux.

Works well so it does. I've even see Half Life 2 (windows "required") running under WinE. On the same (dual boot) machine, it ran with a higher FPS in WinE than it did in Windows.

Last time I used it, it was a bit of a pain trying to configure different applications to run right though. But a little playing around, and you're good to go. From memory, you can even configure a Launcher (shortcut) to fire a given app under WinE straight away.

For those thinking about VMWare, check out Xen instead.

[timwilky]

Originally Posted by Pedro68

Hasn't anyone tried VMWare? Too expensive perhaps?

WinE used to be known by the longer name of "Windows Emulator" until uncle Bill threatened to sue IIRC. Now "Wine" is a recursive acronym meaning "Wine Is Not an Emulator" and is the name of the project that allows you to execute programs originally written to run on M$ Windows under Linux.

The difference between Wine and VMWare is that wine creates an "environment" in which to execute a program. No windows license required.

VMWare on the other hand creates a "virtual machine" and hence requires a license for each virtual machine OS used (unless you use Linux on all those virtual machines :P).

I last used VMWare a few years back, but it seemed pretty neat ... you could "switch" between machines at the click of a button

Pete

I use vmware on my development laptop. Works well, I have a server 2003 and a RHES install currently running under it. Then again my company runs quite a few vmware ESX setups and it is the default solution unless I can prove my applications will not work within a virtual solution. So same rule applies. I cannot justify and do not want to carry 3 laptops. what I do have though is a 300gb SATA drive in a 3.5" external box to support the data storage need. so also have a sata card installed

I shall give it a try - have seen refs to it before but never tried it

[timwilky]

Originally Posted by Baph

Pretty much as Pedro68 said. Except he missed pointing you to their website. http://www.winehq.org/

Basically, run WinE, and you can run Windows applications, under Linux. Essentially all it does is map the Windows API to the corresponding functions under Linux.

Works well so it does. I've even see Half Life 2 (windows "required") running under WinE. On the same (dual boot) machine, it ran with a higher FPS in WinE than it did in Windows.

Last time I used it, it was a bit of a pain trying to configure different applications to run right though. But a little playing around, and you're good to go. From memory, you can even configure a Launcher (shortcut) to fire a given app under WinE straight away.

For those thinking about VMWare, check out Xen instead.

The problem I have with wine was an assumption that there would be other micro$oft apps there. My only need for it was because Lotus did not provide a linux client so I had to run it through wine. Problem then I could not figure out how to then launch appropriate open office apps when it wanted to launch office apps etc.