Alternative shock? Pointy.

I'm sure there are guys out there with a lot more experience and of course there is much to say about suspension. I don't consider myself an expert, but I'm not a good weather rider, had my share of many tens of thousands of miles over the years.

the thing is, my SV always felt wobbly and unstable in turns, during acceleration etc. ... after installing the ohlins, the difference was day and night. there is absolutely no way a beginner can not benefit from these improvements and anyone who claims anything else is in denial.

sure, £200 pounds is more than £80, but for me, those are the best spent £200...

I'm glad for you, really I am. What I'm saying is you can get similar night-and-day changes for much less money, simply by tapping into the pool of advice and experience right here. That's why we join marque-specific forums, isn't it..?

without willing to get into further discussion, I simply refuse to believe that a shock from a different brand, 10 year-old supersport bike performs just as well as an ohlins made specially for the sv650.

in the end, it's all a matter of choice, I guess

[Bibio]

Originally Posted by aoleks

without willing to get into further discussion, I simply refuse to believe that a shock from a different brand, 10 year-old supersport bike performs just as well as an ohlins made specially for the sv650.

in the end, it's all a matter of choice, I guess

an OEM shock from a different bike wont perform as well as an aftermarket one designed and built for the bike and rider but when you consider that even a basic aftermarker shock will set you back £350+ and a second hand OEM from another bike will cost £100+/- then most people will opt for the second hand OEM as they are just wanting better than the pogo stick one that is fitted to the SV. your average rider does not have the skill to push a proper aftermarket shock to its potential so in reality it's better for them to save the cash on a second hand one, add to that the SV is classed as a stepping stone bike so people dont have them for long and tend to trade up within 2 years for something better which surprise surprise has better suspension and brakes right from the start.

now having said that you get people like me who are perfectly happy not to be one of the power ranger brigade and is perfectly happy having a bike that is light and fun who will invest in upgrading the suspension and brakes as i intend to have my SV till i pop my clogs. yes i have spent a small fortune on my bike but its the bike i want and does everything i want from a bike.

Originally Posted by aoleks

without willing to get into further discussion, I simply refuse to believe that a shock from a different brand, 10 year-old supersport bike performs just as well as an ohlins made specially for the sv650.

in the end, it's all a matter of choice, I guess

Perhaps not, but for £200 the Ohlins ain't gonna be in great shape either...

Originally Posted by Bibio

...your average rider does not have the skill to push a proper aftermarket shock to its potential

true, but if you ask me, it's not about the 5% top performance a shock can offer, but the 95% bit that any rider can benefit from.

Originally Posted by figaro

Perhaps not, but for £200 the Ohlins ain't gonna be in great shape either...

I was gonna describe it to you, but I'll let the pictures do the job ...

So you were lucky. Now find me one please...

[Bibio]

Originally Posted by aoleks

true, but if you ask me, it's not about the 5% top performance a shock can offer, but the 95% bit that any rider can benefit from.



I was gonna describe it to you, but I'll let the pictures do the job ...

ok here is the real deal. a serviced and modified piston rear shock from a zzr14 will blow your simple 1 way ohlins out the water, why well lets say the zzr shock costs £80 for a semi decent one, you then send it away to someone who actually knows what they are doing and ask for a service an the shim stack modified to suit the sv dampening curve and a spring rate to match the weight of bike and rider. which will set you back £100 for the service and £30 for messing with the shim stack add to that £40 for a spring to match the bike and rider comes to a total of £250 for a fully 3 way shock. so for £50 more that you got your second hand ohlins you could have had a modified and serviced ZZR shock that was a looot better.

ohlins are not the last name in shocks and there are plenty better ones out there but command a high price tag.

one more thing... racing shocks have no use on the road as they are set up internally for race tracks which are smooth. what you really want is a road racing shock.

1. again, you truly make it sound like any shock from every bike fits any bike. tell all manufacturers to stop researching suspension and to make one-size-fits-all shocks, for the whole motorcycle industry. after all, it only takes a few bits worth £30 to make it all work, so why bother?

http://www.nestreetriders.com/forum/...swap-myth.html

2. maybe, but given that the majority (if not all major teams) of sbk/motogp racing teams use ohlins, I would say they must be exceptionally good. sure, there are always commercial brands out there, but no company survives that long on "being commercial" if the products are not good.

3. mine is a street model...

Originally Posted by aoleks

3. mine is a street model...

So it came off a secondhand Ducati then..?