Are Parking Lights an M.O.T. item?

[NTECUK]

[QUOTE=Red Herring;25769 should still pass an MOT as it is fitted and works, but it might be a bit of a bugger to see a little position lamp through the glare of a headlamp![/QUOTE]

Pass and advise .

Lights that are painted over masked,permantly diconnected and the next bit-----
Only used during daylight hours which means they would be required for a full MOT
As has been commented parking lights are required by law in certain circumstances and an unattended vehicle with headlights on and engine switched off will sort of defeat the object apart from being illegal
Like I said before ---What is the point if you have a switch already on the bike that controls their operation---why disconnect them---why fit a different switch/

Surely the ignition switch parking mode is designed so that you can leave the bike with parking lights on,key removed, when necesary without somebody turning them off. I am presuming we are talking about the SV

Form VT32 is issued at the discreation of the tester for a non compliant and he can still issue the MOTcertificate ---------read the back of the VT32,the part that explains you can still be prosecuted for the non compliance

[NTECUK]

Yes that is right . But you can do it .
It's only the bod who keeps flattening his battery .
No issue with it on my sv.
But he has that option .
Same if you want no lights on your bike at all.

Wrong wording in earlier post ---should be re-tested not re-registered---as in for daylight use only---sorry for the mix up

[Red Herring]

You don't need to get the bike re-tested (MOT) if you decide to adapt it for daylight use only, or if you decide to replace the lights for night time use. In fact the MOT certificate is exactly the same, the only difference is that when presenting a bike for MOT without any lights you usually get an advisory to the effect that it is for daytime use only, which isn't recorded on the certificate.

[NTECUK]

Thing about MOT is it realy only means pass at that moment .There's nothing stopping the presenter going away that morning ,putting on his race exhaust ,cut slicks,taking off the body work fitting there fiberglass race body with no lights and ridding it round ulting bends that afternoon.

I think you are all missing one main point. If you have a headlight fitted that complies with the MOT test, you do not need a front sidelight to be fitted as well. That is clearly stated in the wording of the MOT Tester's Manual. Red Herring may have misinterpreted that bit, because there would be no need to go searching through the glare of a headlight to see the sidelight.

I only know this bit because we had to check with our local MOT tester (who is mega strict) and VOSA to see if some Rieju 50s complied with C+U 1988 because they have no battery and the lights only work when the engine runs. They have no sidelights fitted either, but the headlights are on full time when the engine runs. Apparently they do comply with all regs and the MOT tester gave us a run down of the rules regarding other machines as well.

Presumably to do with the original type approval certification when granted as all vehicles vary.

[Red Herring]

Originally Posted by Lozzo

I think you are all missing one main point. If you have a headlight fitted that complies with the MOT test, you do not need a front sidelight to be fitted as well. That is clearly stated in the wording of the MOT Tester's Manual. Red Herring may have misinterpreted that bit, because there would be no need to go searching through the glare of a headlight to see the sidelight.

A solo motorcycle fitted with a headlight does not have to be fitted with a front position lamp. If however it is fitted with a front position lamp then it needs to work. In this thread we are discussing the issues with disconnecting a front position lamp that is fitted, and if that will then fail an MOT. There is a clause in the Road Traffic Act that says a lamp shall not be considered to be fitted if it is not provided with a system of wiring by which it could be readily connected, but I'd have to submit to your MOT expertise as to wether cutting the wire at the ignition would count under that....?

[NTECUK]

As a tester you have to ask your self this.
1.does the light come on when I turn it to position one..
well its going to do that as the wire that is cut is only at the ignition Lock.
2. is there anywhere in the testers manual that states in methods of inspection that states,
engage the ignition Lock, and turn it to the park position.
.
I can't find that, so its not even part of the test.