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Old 04-08-13, 01:09 PM   #41
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I keep watching it and I fail to see how he can be at all vindicated. Everything about the ride from weaving, to the space he gives the cars he's weaving around, forward observation, braking skill etc. is atrocious. He shouldn't be on the road. It's awful to watch.

There's no way he's braking with decent force on the front. No fork dip or anything. Head stays up, tail wiggling at the end. You don't have to be Rossi to squeeze the front lever in a straight line on a motorway. But irrespective of that, there's no justification for not seeing two stationary trucks in front of you. The reason why he didn't see them was because he wasn't looking, because he was arsing around weaving and basically thinking he was the mutts.

I think it's God awful, and he needs to either do some advanced riding courses or give up riding all together.
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Old 04-08-13, 02:34 PM   #42
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I don't see where people are getting this idea that he was weaving about? From the clip I see he's in Lane 2 from start to the crash. At worst he's moved from lane 1 to 2, but that's normal from where I come from? Fallout how do you know he's not braking with decent force? The camera is mounted on his helmet so your not going to see how hard he's braking. He might be braking so hard on the front that it's lifting the rear off of the ground which causes it to go sideways.

Unless there is a third person point of view or data printout to show he was weaving, only braking by 20% etc etc then I'm basing my opinion on the tiny bit of video.
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Old 04-08-13, 02:50 PM   #43
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In the very first frame of the video he's undertaking a car, then moves into the fast lane to overtake, although he never really makes it fully into the fast lane. Then back to the inside lane to undertake, then back to the fast lane. All movements within a metre of the cars. No safe space given. That's weaving! I appreciate a lot of bikers do this, but it doesn't make it right. I can't remember the last time I undertook a car.

As for the braking, I play around with a lot of helmet cam footage. I couldn't tell you what speed he's travelling at or how much speed he scrubs off, but I can say from seeing myself braking a lot on camera that I slow down a hell of a lot quicker than he did, on a knackered old gixxer with warped brake discs and a shoddy 2 finger braking technique.

I even have a vid of me doing 80 around a corner leant right over on a quiet road, only to see a car reversing back around the corner towards me. I couldn't brake hard because of lean, so I just braked a bit and looked for my exit strategy, but I still clearly slow down quicker than this chap.

Obviously I can't say any of this for fact. Perhaps the perspective is just tricking me and he's going much faster than he seems to be, but every now and then I'll do 80mph emergency brake checks/practices, just so I can keep in mind how it feels and know I can do it, and I stop a lot quicker than he did. And I'm no Rossi!
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Old 04-08-13, 03:29 PM   #44
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I must apologize for my comment on the weaving. I was watching that he uploaded to his channel here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xwEIBZlqmc which doesn't feature the first few seconds so yes he was very much a noob in that respect.
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Old 04-08-13, 05:12 PM   #45
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Looking at this guys videos, I've made my mind up about him and his riding.
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Old 04-08-13, 09:10 PM   #46
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Coming from someone that almost had a head-on at 50ish the other day on a bike with mediocre brakes, i can safely say he could of easily stopped in about 1/2 of that distance (2/3 at worst)if he had just used the brakes in the way they were meant to be used. Watching it again, he has even more time than i remebered. And the fact he is swearing and not concentrating on braking?! When i almost hit the car, my thought were purely on stopping the bike...i dont see at all how saying something out loud could be a subconscious reaction, and therefore if its a consious reaction he had time to think about that...but not brake? Proper ****.
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Old 05-08-13, 11:10 AM   #47
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Reading his comments on Facebook, what I think is worse than his obvious lack of riding skill is that he is accepting no blame for the accident. He doesn't even concede that he was riding too fast for the conditions. As far as he is concerned he is just a victim of circumstance and there was nothing he could have done.

Frightening that we have to share the roads with people like that.
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Old 05-08-13, 11:22 AM   #48
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Reading his comments on Facebook, what I think is worse than his obvious lack of riding skill is that he is accepting no blame for the accident. He doesn't even concede that he was riding too fast for the conditions. As far as he is concerned he is just a victim of circumstance and there was nothing he could have done.

Frightening that we have to share the roads with people like that.
Using his eyes and then brakes in that order would've done it. lol

What a muppet.
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Old 05-08-13, 11:33 AM   #49
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As far as he is concerned he is just a victim of circumstance and there was nothing he could have done.
Some people only assess their riding after a big off, some not even then. The best riders I know are quite willing to accept that they make mistakes assess them as they happen regardless of whether it develops into a serious situation or not and try not to do the same thing next time a similar situation develops.

There's plenty to learn from this video.

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Old 05-08-13, 11:41 AM   #50
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There was tonnes of room between those lorries. He just chickened it at the last minute.
Shoulda stayed on power and flown through
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