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Old 12-09-07, 02:54 PM   #41
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********. The government had nothing to do with it, as she was acquitted by a JURY, not a judge.

None of us know the details, so no-one's in a position to say squat.

Errm, calm down mate. And the b word aint exactly U rated so how come that got thru? Anyhoooooo.

Have you ever spent time in a court, with and without juries? Well the judge always does some summing up of the case and in case where thers is a jury he also "guides" the jury towards a decision.

As many others have said there is no real reason why this person wasnt dealt with under law. The judge seems to have steered the jury into believing that the fact the woman has to live with the guilt is enough punishment hence they acquitted her.
Muder can only be commuted to mansalughter if the intent cant be proved as Pedro said before. mansalughter cannot be comuted to a lower charge and i fail to se why this person was found to be not guilty if she was the responsible adult in attendance.

Yo can be tried for the same offence as others if you were there with them and did nothing to stop them. IE i can be done for criminal damage if i was with a mate who was grafitting and i did nothing to stop him.

The law, however, is an ass so it never makes sense in these sort of cases. However Jordan, you really need to calm down about what views others have.

As Supervox said before we are all entitled to our opinions and views, whther they be spot or or way off the mark. You telling peeps they are not entitle to a view does little for your arguments mate.

You and i often see things from the same side of the fence yet when you encounter a view diffrent from your you act as tho it IS wrong.
i prefer to try and convinvce people of my point of view and the reasons i have that view and if they choose to agree with me then fine...if not, equaly fine.
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Old 12-09-07, 03:11 PM   #42
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No offence to your good self ment, you seem a fairly sensible bloke.

I just get wound up when people spout rubbish as it were a matter of a fact. When questioned of course they'll say 'oh but it was just my opinion'. Now I might well have an opinion on quantum physics, but I'd never be daft enough to voice them with any kind of authority, let alone state them as a point of fact!

I've no problem with other peoples opinions, only when they come up with a rubbish argument and fail to justify it.
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Old 12-09-07, 03:23 PM   #43
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No offence to your good self ment, you seem a fairly sensible bloke.

I just get wound up when people spout rubbish as it were a matter of a fact. When questioned of course they'll say 'oh but it was just my opinion'. Now I might well have an opinion on quantum physics, but I'd never be daft enough to voice them with any kind of authority, let alone state them as a point of fact!

I've no problem with other peoples opinions, only when they come up with a rubbish argument and fail to justify it.

"Sensible Bloke"??? C'mon Jordan you've met me so you know thats only half true at best
And i know what you mean but i could accuse you of the same behaviour.

Now, i have been watching a series on BBC4 recently called Atom and it was all about, well errm, atoms n stuff like that. So i know enough about quantam physics to know that our entire universe is only one of millions of atoms under a giants fingernail.
So any opinons?
Anyone?
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Old 12-09-07, 03:25 PM   #44
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So any opinons?
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Old 12-09-07, 03:27 PM   #45
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Thats ******** Spidi and you know it.
How dare you reduce Quantus psychics to such utter drivvle.
Its much simpler than that.
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Old 12-09-07, 06:07 PM   #46
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Flamin Squirrel

Just exactly where do you get off calling people "fools" & "stupid" just because they dare to have a different opinion to yourself ?

The whole point of my original post was that here on a public forum I have a means to vent my OPINION . . .

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2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.

. . . that in this case the jury, the verdict & sentence were wrong.

Now, if you don't like or agree with MY opinion then argue, debate, discuss, reason with people to get YOUR opinion across - but don't resort to cheap, name-calling as this :-

(a) Gets people p*ssed off
(b) Is the last resort of someone who has run out of reasonable argument
(c) Is just plain childish !!
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Flamin Squirrel

Just exactly where do you get off calling people "fools" & "stupid" just because they dare to have a different opinion to yourself ?

The whole point of my original post was that here on a public forum I have a means to vent my OPINION . . .

o·pin·ion –noun

1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.

. . . that in this case the jury, the verdict & sentence were wrong.

Now, if you don't like or agree with MY opinion then argue, debate, discuss, reason with people to get YOUR opinion across - but don't resort to cheap, name-calling as this :-

(a) Gets people p*ssed off
(b) Is the last resort of someone who has run out of reasonable argument
(c) Is just plain childish !!


Well put. Reminds me of your old signature!! Thats how I was feeling as well!
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Old 13-09-07, 08:50 AM   #49
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Well put.
Really? So tell me, where other than the outpouring of moral outrage has anyone put forward any solid evidence that the jury acted improperly and was 'wrong'?
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Old 13-09-07, 09:00 AM   #50
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Well you know what, build some new ones then and get the scum that deserve to be off the stret behind bars!!

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Completely agree, rather than wasting the money the government gets in our taxes use it for building the things we need!!

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