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Old 11-01-13, 10:50 PM   #1
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Default Pillion Helmet Responsibility (Rider or Pillion)?

Hi, This question has been in my mind for a while now sorry if its stupid of me to even ask but who is BY LAW responsible for making sure the pillion has a helmet?
Lets say you take on a pillion with no helmet and get caught who would get prosecuted you or the pillion and what punishment would they receive?
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Old 11-01-13, 11:04 PM   #2
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I would assume it would be the rider - They are in control of the vehicle!

I would assume points and a fine, but i suppose if you dont have a helmet i dont think the police can chase you too far!
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Old 11-01-13, 11:07 PM   #3
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No helmets is not an endorsable offence so would just be a fine for either the rider
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Old 11-01-13, 11:07 PM   #4
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I would say pillion. the driver of a car is responsible for people to wear a seatbelt up to the age of ?15? then it is the responsibility of the passenger, and they get the points not the driver. you would get a telling off but i dont think you can be prosecuted.
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Old 11-01-13, 11:09 PM   #5
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Personally I'd say if you (not you specifically) as a rider care at all for the person you are carrying then you should insist on them wearing the right kit regardless of who would get prosecuted.
Don't know the answer to the original question but I'd never put myself or my pillion in that postion to find out.
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Old 11-01-13, 11:21 PM   #6
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Default Re: Pillion Helmet Responsibility (Rider or Pillion)?

What about pillion fastening the helmet?
As if I remember right from doing my cbt, they said hey caught with your helmet undone is 3 points and £60 or just £60 fine. Anyway what would pillion get or again is the rider responsible
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Old 11-01-13, 11:24 PM   #7
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the driver of a car is responsible for people to wear a seatbelt up to the age of ?15?
wrong it's the responsibility of the driver at all times as is a pillion wearing a helmet.
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wrong it's the responsibility of the driver at all times as is a pillion wearing a helmet.
wrong

https://www.gov.uk/rules-drivers-mot...ints-99-to-102
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Old 11-01-13, 11:49 PM   #9
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"A person who drives or rides on a motor cycle in contravention of regulations under this section is guilty of an offence; but notwithstanding any enactment or rule of law no person other than the person actually committing the contravention is guilty of an offence by reason of the contravention unless the person actually committing the contravention is a child under the age of sixteen years."
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I would say pillion. the driver of a car is responsible for people to wear a seatbelt up to the age of ?15? then it is the responsibility of the passenger, and they get the points not the driver. you would get a telling off but i dont think you can be prosecuted.
i thought it had changed the passenger gets a fine and the driver gets 3 points no matter the age, maybe its just over here?
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