"33bhp?" Yes "i dont believe you, I'll seize your bike and take you to court"

[tigersaw]

Avaition fuel?
Neither Jet-A or Avgas would even run in a petrol engine without modification. Also they carry dyes, so it would be obvious if you wer attempting to run your engine on it.

Taking it that you now have your bike back try selling this saga to a newspaper who are willing to fight your corner for you and reimburse you for the damages/loss of use/stress and inconvenience caused claim on winning. I would imagine the Sun or MCN would have a fielday with this story. It is only a suggested alternative as against having to fund proceedings yourself.

[yorkie_chris]

110LL does, mate of mine runs a turbo GSXR on it.

Jet-A would be a seriously bad idea though, it's got similar octane rating to diesel (i.e bugger all) hasn't it?

[Biker Biggles]

Originally Posted by Flameboy

Called a previously advised solicitor off this forum, and the same guy I'd spoken to the other day but that went to answer phone so I'd assume they're off for the weekend.

Then called WD but due to the £57 for the initial 20 minutes and £17.50 for every 6 minutes after, I really can't afford it. I'll try the other solicitors a little later and see if I can get through to them.

Citizens Advice Bureau is a good starting point for this sort of thing.Then there is BMF/MAG who might be interested (more so if you are a member)and then the journos like MCN or one of the more serious mags.

[tigersaw]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

110LL does, mate of mine runs a turbo GSXR on it.

Jet-A would be a seriously bad idea though, it's got similar octane rating to diesel (i.e bugger all) hasn't it?

Jet-A might as well be heating oil. Avgas would work with modification, but I only mentioned those two as they are the common ones - you'd need some good contacts to get hold of it anyway

[yorkie_chris]

IMO though firstly contact this inspector again... either in writing or face to face and explain the situation. Tell him politely how annoyed you are, request details, again... inform him about the damage, tell him you want to know where your bike was so you can pursue them for damages... tell him you are not happy at paying the release fee and think you should not be liable for it.

You never know, he might pull his head out of his **** now he hasn't got the bike impounded like an albatross around his neck lol.

[Red Herring]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

110LL does, mate of mine runs a turbo GSXR on it.

Jet-A would be a seriously bad idea though, it's got similar octane rating to diesel (i.e bugger all) hasn't it?

The main advantage of AvGas is the higher octane rating which means the fuel burns slower and more controllably. This allows you to run a higher compression (which is what a turbo effectively does) and/or advance the ignition. I don't think an SV's electronics are clever enough to detect the fueling to that extent and advance automatically so unless you're altered the engine it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference, other than to your wallet. Same goes for putting in 98 octane. SV's as standard are set up to run on 95.

In short they're talking rubbish.

[yorkie_chris]

Nope no knock sensor, also I think 110LL has a lower calorific content than pump fuel so you'd probably lose power.

+1 about them talking rubbish.

[madcockney]

Seeing that this was a s/h restricted ECU and from all accounts has the correct part number on it, wouldn't it be worth contacting Suzuki UK regarding this. Suzuki sell bikes with the restrictor already fitted and this situation could affect all the bikes they sell, or their dealers fitting them as an aftermarket. (All of this assumes no mods to FB bike knowingly or not.) I would have thought that they would want to take this case up to prevent it affecting their sales, and to provide support to their existing and prospective customers. If the police case stands which I think that there is a good chance it doesn't, then there could be a case of hundreds of bikers riding on resricted 33 BHP ECU bikes taking action against them and other manufacturers who supply similar units.

May I also say that the resident police fraternity on the org have provided a lot of good advise on this matter, and it goes to show that coppers, when they think that an injustice, or action contrary to the correct process of the law happens are willing to raise their voices. What is a bit baffling is why the solicitor fraternity that also frequent the org been so quiet on the matter, or have I missed something?

One other thing, I think it was Timwilky, who provided the EU test methods at the crank also stated that there was a 10% (from memory) tolerance, and that the test had to be run X number of times. So if there is 10% at the crank that would provide 36.3, and going on some info from SVrider.com that chain transmissions losses are 10-12% (?) would give just under 33 BHP at the rear wheel. Another thing I came across was that the dynos used for bikes have to be corrected not just for temperature, etc, but for the rear wheel so they have to know the sizes of the sprockets to achieve the correct calculation. I think that there are so many factors here that there is the possibility that the tester may not have taken all of these into consideration.

This case really comes down to three things:

1) Did the police have the right to seize the bike? If they didn't then there should be no charges for the recovery,storage of the vehicle, etc. I would also hazard a guess that FB could then claim compensation for the loss of it's use and additional expenses incurred.

2) Did they have the right to have it Dyno'd, and if so what precautions did they take to ensure that it was undertaken correctly, and in accordance with EU regs.

3) What compensation are they going to make for the damage to the bike

[Red Herring]

This is an example of either incredibly poor policing, or a very clever wind up. I'm not sure which I want it to be.

Up to the point about the results of the dyno test and the Avgas plot I was going with the poor policing version because sometimes they really do get it that wrong. Since then their behavior appears to have gone so far off the mark that the story is in danger of losing it's credibility.....