Blipping the throttle on downchanges?

I was thinking about this when I was out tonight, before I had read the thread funnily enough. I haven't mastered it yet bt I will give it a go..

[gruntygiggles]

Was told it on DAS, not necessarlity taught it if ya get my drift. Actually, they said to start just holding the throttle where it is, not rolling off when shifting down to start, then move on to actively blipping when I have abit more experience.

As for brakes.....I used to hate that Dan uses two fingers (behave people), but the very first time I went out on the CG after passing Mod 2, I noticed by the time I got home that I was only using two fingers. I like it. It means you physically can't grab a fistful of front brake...but as I found last Saturday, you can still use it and brake as hard aas you need to.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by gruntygiggles

It means you physically can't grab a fistful of front brake...

"Fistful" is just lots of brake suddenly.

You can apply plenty brake to lock wheel and slide on your *rse using 2 fingers!

[gruntygiggles]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

"Fistful" is just lots of brake suddenly.

You can apply plenty brake to lock wheel and slide on your *rse using 2 fingers!

Haha, good to know.....I had to brake suddenly on my test and you have to use four fingers in test.....I think I let off a nanosecond before locking the front wheel....but he just thought I did it well.....I wasn't about to correct him .

I do think that in an emergency situation it may just be instinct to grab at the front brakes with all fingers???

[yorkie_chris]

You need to build muscle memory that "BRAKE!" is to progressively apply brakes hard and NOT to grab at them (panic response), as this will instantly lock the front wheel.

This is important and should be practiced.


Only panic response is for a situation which you are not anticipating or prepared for which causes adrenal dump and fight/flight/freeze response. Read "dead or alive" by Geoff Thompson, nothing to do with bikes at all but great book

[gruntygiggles]

Will look into it. I think my biggest area for development on the bike right now is when to throttle on in a bend. I do wait until I can see the exit.....but it's on the long bends that I find I hold the speed, then when it tightens up, I am VERY cautious of throttling on again, so sometimes do it a bit too gingerly and it's not very smooth.

Im talking about low speed blipping anyway.

still have the odd problem with high speed but its mainly slow speed...

ill try as you suggested!

i knew this would get a good few comments when i started the thread.

firstly some people seem to think i don't know the mechanics of it all that is not true i know exactly, it's the same idea as double clutching. matching the speed of the input shaft/to the engine.
someone mentioned that the don't roll of the throttle when down shifting and can get a far better downshift. this is something that I also do.

It seems that i must be trying the enter a corner at the maximum posible limit to be riding corectly. sorry to disappoint, i have 2 kids and don't want to take the risk of being on the border line to the point that i may kill myself and miss out on many years of great times of them growing up and being a total pain in the ass .

The first reponse stated that the bike was out of controll for a great deal of time as i was slipping the clutch that would mean the the Tuno my mate rides would be pretty rubbish as it has a slipper clutch doing the same thing that i am doing would it not?


I'm no Rossi i don't have the inclenation to be. so on that would it be totaly nessicery (excuse my spelling) for me to blip if i can controll the bike without it.

also when going round a corner i feather the clutch(when nessicery) on both the bike and the car to ensure the delivery of power is correct (I've yet to replace a clutch on a car and have to 10s of thousands of miles)

I have blipped the throttle but to be honest i don't feel that it slows me as much as it does when i don't.

cheers
Davie

Originally Posted by Davadvice

I have blipped the throttle but to be honest i don't feel that it slows me as much as it does when i don't.

I think you are missing the point - it is smoothness, not speed, which is the greatest advantage.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Davadvice

It seems that i must be trying the enter a corner at the maximum posible limit to be riding corectly. sorry to disappoint, i have 2 kids and don't want to take the risk of being on the border line to the point that i may kill myself and miss out on many years of great times of them growing up and being a total pain in the ass .

The first reponse stated that the bike was out of controll for a great deal of time as i was slipping the clutch that would mean the the Tuno my mate rides would be pretty rubbish as it has a slipper clutch doing the same thing that i am doing would it not?

also when going round a corner i feather the clutch(when nessicery) on both the bike and the car to ensure the delivery of power is correct (I've yet to replace a clutch on a car and have to 10s of thousands of miles)

I have blipped the throttle but to be honest i don't feel that it slows me as much as it does when i don't.

cheers
Davie

You are slipping clutch, this causes wear. Fact.

It is not about maximum corner speed and you blatantly do not have the faintest idea what a slipper clutch does either.