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Old 09-09-14, 04:06 PM   #111
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I think your missing the point embee
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Old 09-09-14, 04:25 PM   #112
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Sorry. What point am I missing?

I'm just posing a hypothetical situation for consideration.
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Old 09-09-14, 05:15 PM   #113
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Whoever dies in the incident the one that lives should be prosecuted.
Hi Spank, any chance you could explain the logic of your statement? Does not compute for me
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Old 09-09-14, 05:16 PM   #114
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The educational point.
It's what it's all about.
But I can't see,other than the different types of vehicle involved what is different about your question and what occurred in this collision are is?
You might as well say. If it had been a red bike and a sky blue car.
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The educational point.
It's what it's all about.
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Ah, OK, righty ho. Job done.
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Old 09-09-14, 06:08 PM   #116
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Hi Spank, any chance you could explain the logic of your statement? Does not compute for me
Because they both did things that could be considered somewhere between driving without due care and attention and dangerous driving but as far as I'm aware dying gets you off the hook as far as the courts are concerned.
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The educational point.
It's what it's all about.
I agree, and that's why I think it's important to discuss the idea that he would have been ok if he'd gone to the right.

In hindsight it's probably true but there's been at least one poster commenting that he learned to always go right in that situation which is definitely not the case for reasons I've already gone into.

My personal view is that the right action immediately upon noticing the problem (when he says whoa I guess) would have been to hammer the brakes for all he's worth before committing to a direction change, but I'm open to being convinced there's a better way since I've not been in that situation for real.

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Old 09-09-14, 06:49 PM   #118
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When he said whoa was way to late and I rekon none of us could have avoided a collision at that stage. A lot of you, rightly so say you are wary at junctions like this. But for some reason only known to himself sadly, after overtaking the Aygo David carried on accelerating towards a potential hazard. Well, it was potential at the time but very quickly turned into cruel reality.
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Old 09-09-14, 06:50 PM   #119
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My personal view is that the right action immediately upon noticing the problem (when he says whoa I guess) would have been to hammer the brakes for all he's worth before committing to a direction change, but I'm open to being convinced there's a better way since I've not been in that situation for real.
My personal view is he should have noticed the potential for a problem much earlier, and decided in advance what he was going to do if the car did pull across in front of him. It's called having a riding plan.

He had 6 opportunities to avoid that accident

1. The triangular warning sign telling him the junction was coming up
2. The solid white line on the left turning to a broken white line
3. The junction itself coming into view
4. The oncoming cars right indicator
5. The oncoming car pulling over into the filter lane.
6. Don't do that speed down there in the first place.

All of those should have rung alarm bells in his head for a possible danger, and 4 and 5 in particular should have told him there was a very real danger of a car pulling across in front of him.
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Old 09-09-14, 06:58 PM   #120
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When he said whoa was way to late and I rekon none of us could have avoided a collision at that stage.
I agree, assuming I'd ignored all the warning signs and got myself into that mess, I'm not sure I could have avoided it at that speed.

This guy did manage quite a swerve at quite a speed though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdq46lIVm4M&sns=em

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Error: If you cannot see this video, then either YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed to play it.

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