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02-11-17, 01:43 PM | #31 | |
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Unfortunately, that seems to be the nature of politics at the moment. Too much showbiz and not enough analysis. Last edited by keith_d; 02-11-17 at 01:45 PM. |
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02-11-17, 01:48 PM | #32 |
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bit off topic...
why do we have political parties? would it not be better to have constituency candidates who people vote for and the winners make up the Gov. same goes for all the leading positions like the chancellor and the prime minister. |
02-11-17, 02:09 PM | #33 |
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Australia fines people who don't vote. They also have preference system where you vote for your preferred candidate, but also vote for your second preferred candidate and maybe third preference as well. If nobodies first preference gets a majority then the candidate with least votes gets eliminated and the second preference of the people who voted for failed candidate is added up and so on until someone gets over 50% of votes.
It does mean that candidate who wins had over 50% of people's votes, even if they were second or third preference votes.
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03-11-17, 08:56 AM | #34 |
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Labour and Conservatives can turn up in marginal consistencies with a battle bus stuffed with well known MPs to push their message, spend thousands on TV and poster campaigns, and have their activists knocking on doors. There's not much an independent candidate can do to compete with them. |
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03-11-17, 10:44 AM | #36 |
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Can anyone explain what the actual point was?
Ok they held a referendum and declared independence. Now they have direct rule from Madrid, the autonomy is suspended, the people that were running Catalonia are accused of rebellion. They gained nothing and lost, well, almost everything. Sounds like a sh!t deal. |
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03-11-17, 11:05 AM | #38 |
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So what was the plan? Hold a (illegal/not binding) referendum with a 40% turn out and hope Madrid/EU will say "ok, on you go on your own"?
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ie "we tried it the peaceful way and you didn't listen"
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03-11-17, 02:00 PM | #40 | |
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I would say because there wouldn't be any sort of majority rule and things would just fall apart after a while with bickering and infighting.... which is where having a hung parliament CAN (but not always) be so bad, but sometimes these things end up being a good thing.
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