140 mph Police "Follow"

[Red Herring]

Sorry, just realised the discussion is in their "members only" area so you might not be able to view it, I'll keep you posted if they offer a really good explanation!

[Ch00]

Just my 2 pence worth. I am only a Standard Response police rider in london not many nationals here (the next and highest level is Advance). I wouldnt have been happy following at those speeds. I would not have followed for long.

I agree with other people that 5 mins of footage though a number of different areas eg built up slow speeds and nationals would have been enough.

He took some risks in my mind. Risks that were not worth it. I dont want to die at work is the bottom line!!

Ch00

[BanannaMan]

Call off a pursuit???
I hear they do that sort of thing in California...
But here in the Commonwealth of Virginia a 100+ mph police follow will end with your being crashed/shot/killed ...any or all of the above. (legally)
They WILL stop you...whatever it takes.

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by BanannaMan

Call off a pursuit???
I hear they do that sort of thing in California...
But here in the Commonwealth of Virginia a 100+ mph police follow will end with your being crashed/shot/killed ...any or all of the above. (legally)
They WILL stop you...whatever it takes.

will they do it if you're white as well?

[Red Herring]

For those critics of the police riding, and those calling for him to also be prosecuted, you might want to read this. It's very heavy going, uses lots of long words, and will certainly test your dedication.......good luck!

http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/markup.../2007/532.html

[yorkie_chris]

Well I've got about halfway down the document and given up, but at first glance it looks like that sets a precedent for him to get a shafting...

It's freaking ridiculous.

Surely the point of a pursuit is to stop the pursued, to protect the public. If he has no way of demonstrating that his unmarked bike is in fact a police bike, and that he is actually a police officer, then he is of very little use in this situation, except to add to the speeds, and to increase the danger to other road users. No blue lights flashing, no siren, might as well be another idiotic member of the public who genuinely does want to race!

I wouldn't have minded so much if he'd actually made an attempt to stop him somehow in one of the low speed sections where he just follows dutifully with no interest in ending the chase to protect the public, he seemed to be letting it go on for as long as possible.

A police car may have ended this in 30 seconds (unless of course they don't put blues and sirens in unmarked cars round there either!). This guy plays high-speed pursuit for 15 minutes, for fun? No excuses, something is seriously wrong there, it's like he just wants it to end tragically. Imagine the same scenario but with 2 high-performance cars and the same level of risk in the driving, no attempts to stop the pursued, no blues, no siren, just following for 15 minutes, and of course the commentary on how much danger the pursued car is putting everyone in........ Crazy!

[Biker Biggles]

I read the link to the court case.It was the appeal of the cop who took his Vectra for a "spin" at about 150MPH on the motorway,110 on an A road,and 60 through a 30 limit urban road.He won the appeal on the grounds that he was a class 1 trained driver,and therefore his driving was not dangerous.It wasnt a pursuit or a follow,it was to "familiarise" himself with the cars abilities.Im not sure what its relevance is to this case though????Red Herring???

[Biker Biggles]

Or are you suggesting that the rider in the video was not dangerous in law because he was a class 1 trained rider,so the normal rules dont apply?
If so I dont buy that.I do agree that highly trained class one drivers and riders have greater skills and abilities than the rest of us,but not to the extent that they often like to think they do.In this case(the video above)I think the "follow" was high risk,and went on far beyond what was acceptable,and I believe that this probably happened because of the attitudes that exist among the class one fraternity.There is a certain hubris and superiority complex here that I believe is the cause of many accidents in the police(and other emergency services).These people are by no means infallible,and I speak as someone who has seen the results of that fallibility.

*******, thats all i should say......