General Election 2010

are you smiling at my post and agreeing....?

[Dave20046]

Originally Posted by Stuuk1

are you smiling at my post and agreeing....?

Oh ,I assumed it was a joke (apologies if not ).
The four policies don't seem really help the country out of the economical crisis, it's almost as if the BNP googled pet hates and decided to make abolishing them their policies.

Originally Posted by timwilky

Sorry Jabba, must disagree.

Don't apologise for disagreeing - this is a good discussion. Shame the politicians aren't having similar philosophical debates. Maybe we should direct them here?

When I say the higher income groups should pay more I'm not saying that they should be squeezed until the pips squeak (Dennis Healy), I'm suggesting a little bit more gradually as income increases. Lots of little increases with increasing income rather than the crude 20% - 40% step-change that we have now. There shouldn't be a disincentive to earn more, far from it.

I'm also saying that this should only be allied to hugely reduced indirect taxes which, as I've argued earlier, hit the lowest income groups the hardest (proportionately).

Originally Posted by Jabba

I'm also saying that this should only be allied to hugely reduced indirect taxes which, as I've argued earlier, hit the lowest income groups the hardest (proportionately).

I would like to see academic studies of this oft quoted pearl. The one I found first on google did show a disparity, but only really in the lowest decile and I believe there can be a plausible explanation for that. (see posts above wealth vs earnings).

Haha well...

I do actually feel their policies are pretty good. And 'most' of them i agree with. If you read their policies they do seem very good, but they say they would leave Europe (which isnt a good idea in the long run).

But we pay £40 million a day in to europe. BNP would leave Europe (saving £40 million a day which they would re-invest in to 'our' country.

Im not ashamed to admit, that I will be voting them. Most people, i know, are disgusted at even the letters 'BNP' but I feel that is only because of bad press. 90% of people just think they hate black people and are all about racism.... They aren't tho. Their website about their policies is well worth reading. http://bnp.org.uk/policies/

By the way, this is coming from a guy that works on building sites in London which are around 70% Russian, African, Polish and Lithuanian populated, and i've had enough of it. Its ruining our country. I know better, English workers with families who are out of work at the moment due to these foreigners. Its wrong! And its Labour that has done this.

Originally Posted by Stuuk1

Haha well...

I do actually feel their policies are pretty good. And 'most' of them i agree with. If you read their policies they do seem very good, but they say they would leave Europe (which isnt a good idea in the long run).

But we pay £40 million a day in to europe. BNP would leave Europe (saving £40 million a day which they would re-invest in to 'our' country.

Im not ashamed to admit, that I will be voting them. Most people, i know, are disgusted at even the letters 'BNP' but I feel that is only because of bad press. 90% of people just think they hate black people and are all about racism.... They aren't tho. Their website about their policies is well worth reading. http://bnp.org.uk/policies/

By the way, this is coming from a guy that works on building sites in London which are around 70% Russian, African, Polish and Lithuanian populated, and i've had enough of it. Its ruining our country. I know better, English workers with families who are out of work at the moment due to these foreigners. Its wrong! And its Labour that has done this.

I cant disagree with this strongly enough. Quite often the quality of work done by these immigrants it significantly higher than that which us 'natives' produce. If it was not for the immigrants then the economic climate in this country would be even worse than it is now.

I would just like to highlight here that I am talking about LEGAL immigration not illegal immigration, so called 'asylum seekers' etc. I do believe illegal immigration needs to be clamped down upon heavily

[Dave20046]

In my view* the majority of immigrants have merely took the jobs that the underclass get paid not to do. They've come here seeking work, picked it up and done it - enterprising little devils. If we killed off all the work shy benfiteers (the ones who opt for benefits over work) I'd be happy for all the immigrants to stay and take their places


* lighthearted post alert

Originally Posted by Stuuk1

90% of people just think they hate black people and are all about racism....

No, they seem to hate Muslims more.

Particularily like the part about sending the immigrants back to the middle east where they came from, then building stronger links with Oz/NZ where the indigenous population have the upper hand.

As for stopping immigration entirely... go abroad, fall in love, don't come back to the UK to live?

Their policies are innsular and xenophobic. I hope they loose their deposits.

Originally Posted by Quedos

i don't know who to vote for nobody has been round and nobody campaigning - which is always nice to see!
I vote for who give the public sector more money so I can keep my job - doesn't help really as that the scot Gov anyway.

Should the Scots vote for MP's in westminster?!?!

Yes. The English should also get their own parliament. Bring on Federalism.

Originally Posted by BanditPat

I will vote for 'other' there not on your list, dont know why there bigger than a couple of the ones on the poll...

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid

Keith, I wouldn't even have dignified Banditpats post with a response.

I'm hoping he's referring to the Monster Raving Loony Party...

Originally Posted by timwilky

Sorry Jabba, must disagree.

Everyone should have a livable tax free allowance, say £15,000 after that charge everyone a single flat rate of 50%. allowances transferable between partners

chances are most households with a couple of kids would pay no tax, rich pay, middle income pays about what they currently pay

Good idea, I've never earned that! And doubt I ever will.

Originally Posted by Stuuk1

Ill vote BNP seeming as they will:

1. Raise speed limits on motorways
2. Keep our currency
3. Stop immigration completely
4. Bring back Corporal and Capital Punishment.

I feel these 4 things are what is needed in this country and this party is the only party to offer them.

Please reconsider. If you vote for the BNP, you are voting for this.
Visit this site. This is what fascists do.
http://www.shamash.org/holocaust/photos/

BTW, 3/4 of my shift at work are Polish, they are no different to us. No harder-working, nor do they eat swans. Just humans.

ps, sorry for graphic images, this is an extremely serious point that has to be made.

[dizzyblonde]

I want to know which party they were on about on the radio today, who were going to

pull the plug on all these roadworks everywhere you turn
abolishing somesort of defense thingy..Triton or summat
There was a thrid good idea but can't remember

Either way, I was sold on the first......a stop to crappy roadworks