Why do people get restricted licenses?

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Lozzo

Better start digging him up and reviving him then. Getting a conviction quashed 45 years after the event is a bit crap. People get convicted of aiding and abetting every day - I used an extreme example to show just how far the law will go.

Ok, a more recent case. Raoul Moat's accomplices:

Karl Ness, 26, was given three concurrent life sentences totaling a minimum tariff of 40 years for the murder of Christopher Brown, conspiracy to murder and the attempted murder of PC David Rathband. His friend Qhurum Awan got two concurrent life sentences for conspiracy to murder and the attempted murder of PC David Rathband and will serve at least 20 years in jail. Both men were also sentenced to seven years for robbery and Ness was given five years for a firearms offence. Ness, from Dudley in North Tyneside, was with Moat on the night he shot his ex-girlfriend Samantha Stobbart and killed her new boyfriend Chris Brown - who he believed was a policeman.

Neither of these men actually killed anyone themselves, but they are both serving life for effectively aiding and abetting.

You've got to be kidding.

Didn't one of them drive the car there knowing what was about to go down and then drive him away after?

Compared to allowing something which you have no power to stop? For a trivial traffic matter?

I don't think the CPS would try to prosecute a dealer for knowingly letting somebody ride without a license, and agree that murder cases aren't exactly a good comparison, but that said, I didn't think the CPS would try to convict me of DWDC for having quick reactions, doing an emergency stop and saving the lives of a load of kids who were lead into the road by a dottery old man, but that's what happened, so in this ridiculous blame culture we live in, I don't blame the dealers for taking precautions.

Originally Posted by TamSV

The licence conviction code is LC22 - Aiding, abetting, counselling or procuring driving otherwise than in accordance with a licence. 3-6 points.

Whether it would stick in those circumstances I don't know, but I wouldn't blame a dealer for avoiding the possibility of a problem.

For a private seller I can't see it being a problem for you if someone buys your bike and doesn't have the correct licence. If you let them test drive and they don't have a licence you could be on shakier ground.

Thanks for that, I knew there was a conviction code but was too unar5ed to look for it.

As someone else has pointed out, we live in a blame culture nowadays and the CPS have shown amazing amounts of crass stupidity resulting in convictions for some pretty dubious offences, so if we can stop ourselves being potentially convicted of something we can easily put a stop to, we will.