Your thoughts for AR11

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by ravingdavis

With both the GM and AR you have that choice... why remove it? If like me you can attend both then woohoo! Two great weekends in Scotland

Agreed.

GM = Riding
AR = Socialising

I think the first GM1 ride I did was something like 300 miles. We left at 9 ish and didnt get back to the campsite till 7pm. Alot of it flatout, much much higher pace than I have ever done on an AR rideout. You cant do that with an AR rideout. The numbers dont work with it and also the varying skill and experienced levels of riders dont work with it.

But then is it fair to ask the Ecosse section to have to work to put on two big weekends either. How many org people will travel to Scotland for an AR. Yes the talk is of it now and thats all well and good, but I wander how many people it would put off. Especially from the more southern regions. IIRC for GM1 the trip just to get there was 400 miles... Of course theres more than one group of people who could organise rideout in the Scottish area so maybe that problem will solve itself over time.

I liked this years location wise, it seemed reasonable to get there for an awful lot of people. But even then the actual attenance was lower than the list of names on the forum attendance list sugested it might be. I wander if it would take a significant punt and be the detriment to an AR if it was in a location that required significant effort to actually get to in the first place...

[christopher]

Originally Posted by widepants

the strange thing though Lozzo is that I saw NO police in over 400 miles

Shhh... don't say that! North Wales is full of police who'll stop you every 4 miles for a 'safety' chat. It's awful there and the roads/scenery aren't even that nice. They wouldn't like it

(now that's said I can enjoy my blast over the border tomorrow and enjoy triple figures and general hooning around while the other Sunday bikers avoid it due to the reputation)

North Wales doesn't have the monopoly on good biking roads. There are other more biker friendly places to ride, so I choose to go there instead, besides, I'm not keen on the indigenous North Welsh's attitude to the English

[yorkie_chris]

Yeah, luckypants lives there and he's a right tw*t!

[widepants]

Originally Posted by christopher

Shhh... don't say that! North Wales is full of police who'll stop you every 4 miles for a 'safety' chat. It's awful there and the roads/scenery aren't even that nice. They wouldn't like it

(now that's said I can enjoy my blast over the border tomorrow and enjoy triple figures and general hooning around while the other Sunday bikers avoid it due to the reputation)

oh yea sorry ,forgeot to mention the terrible roads with nothing but straights and road works

[widepants]

have a plan....go to the AR and drop in to northwales afterwards and enjoy it on my own again

[andrewsmith]

and police pulling you every hour on the hour

[widepants]

Originally Posted by Lozzo

North Wales doesn't have the monopoly on good biking roads. There are other more biker friendly places to ride, so I choose to go there instead, besides, I'm not keen on the indigenous North Welsh's attitude to the English

If you don't ride there, how are you qualified to comment

If you did ride in the area, instead of relying on media hearsay and uninformed prejudice, you might be pleasantly surprised

Nobody said that NW has a monopoly of good roads. I had more in mind north Shropshire and mid Wales, venturing into NW for a relatively small part. Whatever, whichever way you go from here, it's all good

[phil24_7]

I'll go wherever and whenever and I may even get to the GM next year too!