Electric Vehicles

[admin]

Originally Posted by svenrico

I don't have an electric car or motorbike but I have a pedelec , the type of bicycle that requires pedalling for the electric motor to assist. It was good while the battery lasted ,but it only lasted a year before refusing to hold a charge, and the range on generally level ground was only about 16 miles on a low setting, not the 30 or so miles as claimed by the manufacturer. A new battery is about £360 the last time I checked with the bike shop but is claimed to give a range of about 40 miles or so. I will get round to a new battery one day. Without motor assist it is like wading through treacle so really can't be ridden with a flat battery.

There are places that can refurbish your battery and install new cells.

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[SV650rules]

No doubt on electric vehicles as well as insuring for accident and fire ( fire seems to be a real possibility ) or theft they will introduce battery insurance. Depending if you have signed up to the 'lend us your battery' scheme to keep national grid going when renewables stay in bed I have no doubt you battery insurance premium will skyrocket, as the 'protect the grid' scheme will put the battery through many more cycles than normal driving will. They need to have a register to check if the second hand BEV you are thinking of buying has been used on the scheme, because the speedo trip may only say 10,000 miles but the battery has done 100,000 or more. I have no doubt places will spring up ( like the mileage 'correction' services we have today ) that can reset the battery charge / discharge history memory to a lower figure. The next environmental disaster my well be how to get rid of the toxic chemicals that millions of used but not really recyclable BEV batteries will inflict on the planet - the volume will be much, much greater than the paltry amount of nuclear waste we have accumulated over last 70 years or so.

[DJ123]

Solid state batteries will replace the current generation of lithium ion, probably within the next 5 years. Then you will essentially have nigh on the 'perfect' balance of weight, range, size, charging capability & lifetime too.

[SV650rules]

We have been on the edge of a battery revolution for the past 30 years, the big breakthrough that will make something the size of a matchbox capable of powering a jumbo jet and costing £50 is always just out of reach - like tomorrow, its never gonna come.

[DJ123]

The EV world has come a long way in a short time, it'll continue at a rapid rate now EV's are going to be mandatory in a lot of countries.

[svenrico]

Originally Posted by DJ123

The EV world has come a long way in a short time, it'll continue at a rapid rate now EV's are going to be mandatory in a lot of countries.

I have just had an email from MAG about the proposed electric vehicle/ban on petrol engine situation.

[svenrico]

Originally Posted by DJ123

The EV world has come a long way in a short time, it'll continue at a rapid rate now EV's are going to be mandatory in a lot of countries.

Electric vehicles are obviously being forced on us but what forces are at play here, companies with vested interests, individuals queuing up to line their own pockets possibly. I am not suggesting ,of course, like some suggested happened with recent Covid related contracts, that private companies with connections to people in government could benefit from the change to electric vehicles.

[svenrico]

Originally Posted by DJ123

Solid state batteries will replace the current generation of lithium ion, probably within the next 5 years. Then you will essentially have nigh on the 'perfect' balance of weight, range, size, charging capability & lifetime too.

Really ?!

[Seeker]

How long will the electric car's battery last?
... that depends...

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/long-elect...173833772.html

[Luckypants]

Originally Posted by svenrico

Really ?!

According to VW at their "Power Day" they expect to have solid state batteries from 2025. I'm sure these will only be in Porsche and top-end Audi products, but eventually it will trickle down to less expensive vehicles. Tesla, LG Chem and General Motors are all working on solid state technology.

There's a good chance one of the mobile phone manufacturers will develop solid state technology before then, as they will also benefit massively from it.

Whether solid state will be all that DJ123 states remains to be seen. It must be 'better' than current lithium-ion tech though, otherwise there would not be so many billions being spent on R&D?