The Covid19 thread

[Seeker]

Originally Posted by gadget

The UK should be a doddle to lock down, we are an island surrounded by nothing but water, no land mass to just stroll across. Iirc .. it served us well between 39-45 but for some ridiculous reason we still have a problem sealing the doors!

You need to think like a Conservative politician. You have two things to place in order of priority - people's safety and profit. Now, as a Conservative government minister which order do you place them?

[gadget]

Originally Posted by Seeker

You need to think like a Conservative politician. You have two things to place in order of priority - people's safety and profit. Now, as a Conservative government minister which order do you place them?

Not speaking as a Conservative or any other party .... but if we had of closed the doors right from the off ... we most likely wouldn't have had to deal with the financial ruin of so many businesses brought about by this country's incompetent politicians and their blatant disregard for our country's work force, thereby the financial implications would have had far less devastating financial impact as a whole.
I'm afraid I am one of those individuals who sees the world in black and white knowing there are many grey areas, I find it very difficult to accept incompetence and those that embrace apathy as though it were a virtue.
And now we have another strain of this virus to deal with and yet we have been told we can holiday abroad!! I just don't see how we're ever going to fully recover as a nation when we are surrounded by incompetent politicians issuing multiple conflicting instructions using a system that greatly resembles a 'wild stab in the dark!
I certainly do not have the answer to all of this but I recognise a cluster f@#k when I see one and I'm still amazed that we are still letting in (at the port of Dover) hundreds of lorries with drivers that have been allowed to enter the UK with no valid corona virus test! Not my assumption... fact from a border force operative I know.

[svenrico]

Holidaying abroad for f**ks sake. People haven't been able to visit close relatives dying in care homes and then couldn't have a proper funeral when they died.

[gadget]

Originally Posted by svenrico

Holidaying abroad for f**ks sake. People haven't been able to visit close relatives dying in care homes and then couldn't have a proper funeral when they died.

Indeed, it defies all logic imo.
Close the doors, keep the UK safe, we will deal with the fall-out as and when it is safe and appropriate to do so.

[Bibio]

you must be brain dead to go on holiday just now. i think people forget that the jab does not stop you getting covid. it says so in the letter.....

i'm just waiting on another lockdown, lets say end of July. or lets do what should have been done from the beginning and let it just run its course.

[Chris_SVS]

Originally Posted by Bibio

you must be brain dead to go on holiday just now. i think people forget that the jab does not stop you getting covid. it says so in the letter.....

i'm just waiting on another lockdown, lets say end of July. or lets do what should have been done from the beginning and let it just run its course.

Had the average person who comments on news articles/social media posts with the no masks/end draconian lockdown/open up pubs kind of stuff been allowed to just run wild, the same people would be complaining that the pubs hadn't done enough to protect them from covid. Would never be their fault they went out and caught it/spread it for the sake of a few pints with the lads.

Some people just need a good boot in the hole (replace boot in the hole with "dose of covid" they're interchangeable.

[Dave20046]

I've not really been up on the news (although noticed people inside a pub the other day?!), did they get to the bottom of what was causing the old death in the astrazennica vaccines in those rare cases? A quick google seems to just say they're looking into it still.

[svenrico]

Originally Posted by Chris_SVS

Had the average person who comments on news articles/social media posts with the no masks/end draconian lockdown/open up pubs kind of stuff been allowed to just run wild, the same people would be complaining that the pubs hadn't done enough to protect them from covid. Would never be their fault they went out and caught it/spread it for the sake of a few pints with the lads.

Some people just need a good boot in the hole (replace boot in the hole with "dose of covid" they're interchangeable.

Yes, and unbelievable that some don't even believe this thing exists and it has all been some sort of conspiracy theory.

[Seeker]

Originally Posted by Dave20046

I've not really been up on the news (although noticed people inside a pub the other day?!), did they get to the bottom of what was causing the old death in the astrazennica vaccines in those rare cases? A quick google seems to just say they're looking into it still.

They know what but not why. It's a rare type of blood clot with low platelets which means, apparently, you bleed more and they show up in places that can be fatal like the veins in the brain. It seems to affect younger people more than older and women more than men.

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/wh...as-been-linked

[Dave20046]

Originally Posted by Seeker

They know what but not why. It's a rare type of blood clot with low platelets which means, apparently, you bleed more and they show up in places that can be fatal like the veins in the brain. It seems to affect younger people more than older and women more than men.

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/wh...as-been-linked

Thanks, I hadn't seen that. I noticed it states the risk of death between vaccine vs contracting covid as relatively close in the lower age groups ...hopefully a typo!

I was hoping for the why, but it does look like clots is a feature of the virus itself which I didn't know and I think was under-reported so I guess that explains it somewhat. The clots in the vaccine have been widely reported.