Teaching creationism in science lessons...

[21QUEST]

Yet more proof......... what a load rubbish.

I think Dr Hilary Leevers has got it right.


Ben

Originally Posted by alpinestarhero

Otherwise, I can put in my exams "because god made it so" and still get marks.

Originally Posted by 21QUEST

I think Dr Hilary Leevers has got it right.


Ben

[jambo]

Originally Posted by neio79

an other example of how we are bowing down to the muslims in this country!!

Evolution has proof, so should be in the sience curiculum full stop, if the stupid muslims are to dumb to accept that F*** them!!

Just becaue the article is written in a sensationalist way doesn't make it true...

While I'm sure this has had an impact I saw nothing in the article suggesting that we should teach it as a valid theory just to please those with diferent views, quite the opposite... Still people do like to get up on a soap box.

Any science should be hypothesis based, if a hypothesis has no chance of being disproved (as in creationism) then it has no place in science.

[Stu]

I think yes, early on in school life before it gets all exam focused. It would be interesting to examine the theory from a scientific point of view. Not to rubbish it, but just to give the chance to let the kids make up their own mind.
If the science teacher teaches them about fossils, & how creatures have evolved over time to adapt to their changing environment and Darwin's theories, and then also teaches them that there is a different POV that one day man was created and everything was good, then woman was created & man never heard the end of it
IMHO it could be confusing for children for their science teacher to teach them one theory as fact and their RE teacher to teach them the alternative also as fact, and the 2 completely different theories can not be reconciled leading to confusion rather than an understanding of both with a preference based on belief.

I saw a program a while can't what/when but they where teaching that in place of real of science, what total crap.......I remember when i was doing my a-level a mad god person chased me down in the street to try to convert me, I was I'm a science student you can't force that crap on me....he got message and left me alone.....

I hate the way the relgions try to convert you, I went to my cousion chriteining a few months back and it was in a a local church to them. Apart from the namimg part the whole service was spent trying to convert us in joining the church me and the other kids in the family made a break for the door soon as we could what a load of crap.

Its not science, not based on fact so should not be taught in school, college or Uni.

Originally Posted by Stu

I think yes, early on in school life before it gets all exam focused. It would be interesting to examine the theory from a scientific point of view. Not to rubbish it, but just to give the chance to let the kids make up their own mind.
If the science teacher teaches them about fossils, & how creatures have evolved over time to adapt to their changing environment and Darwin's theories, and then also teaches them that there is a different POV that one day man was created and everything was good, then woman was created & man never heard the end of it
IMHO it could be confusing for children for their science teacher to teach them one theory as fact and their RE teacher to teach them the alternative also as fact, and the 2 completely different theories can not be reconciled leading to confusion rather than an understanding of both with a preference based on belief.

i dont think it can be taught in science, as school science deals with facts, not a few book written 1000's of years ago by people who if alive today would be called cult nutters!!
Religion has a place in school yes that place is called the RE classes.

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf

interesting poll results...

if you don't discuss creationism at all, and dismiss it outright, will you not only harden the beliefs of the creationists and lose the opportunity to educate the undecided?

In that case, I'd say discuss it as much as you discuss Flat Earth Theory. "Some people used to believe, and some still do that the world is flat. All scientific evidence has now disproved this theory, now lets move on to some real science."

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by neio79

yes true, but as one of your options was to have it out of science and into religious studies it would still be taught.

how is refusing to discuss creationism because it "isn't science" different from people refusing to discuss evolution because it "isn't christian/muslim/whatever"

shouldn't science be the bigger man and be willing to discuss creationism from a scientific viewpoint?