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Old 09-02-09, 03:54 PM   #11
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Default Re: possibly 1 for mr spiers? microphone help....

Beats the hell out of wishing someone had used a vox mic that recorded more frequencies though...

(Sorry no help at all)
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Old 09-02-09, 03:56 PM   #12
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You don't have to spend ages, just EQ the vocal correctly once then save the settings in the plugin and apply to all vocal tracks.

Can you be a bit more specific "matt what do you do"?
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Old 09-02-09, 04:12 PM   #13
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£100 wow thats tight.

My advice to you would be to consider upping that budget if you can. The reason I say this is the microphone is the most important aspect of recording or sound reinforcement. Its the first thing the soundwaves reach and that representation is the only thing you have to work with. The better the representation the better the outcome.

I have spoken to a friend of mine who is a quite a high profile Studio Engineer and from what you said instantly said Electrovoice RE20 (which was my first gut reaction however I don't have the experience in the studio to back it up with any real conviction) suffice to say it is a fantastic microphone which characteristically gives a rich and warm sound.
Unfortunately it is slightly out of your stated price range and if it doesn't suit you will be alot of money to find out.

As you said go and try some out, find a decent shop who will let you bring it back if you don't like it and swap it until you find the one you like, try them out in your studio as this will give you a much clearer picture and you will instantly know.

My other recommendation was the Audio Technica AT4033. This microphone is basically the much more expensive AT4050 model but without the dual diaphragm pic.
Also a great microphone.

Unfortunately I don't really use anything at the low end of the market so couldn't comment on all the £100 mark condensers that are out there.

Another thing I would say is for you to try the Shure beta58a instead of the SM58. It is a far superior microphone and may just be the little bit extra you need to make that type of microphone work for you in the studio. The beta model benefits from a higher frequency response than the SM up to 18k I believe and from my experience delivers 6db more than the standard at the same gain level so signal to noise ratio is much improved.
Just one thing though buy one from a proper shop as there are many many (very many) fakes knocking about.
And the beta58a is in your price range.

Hope this helps.
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Old 09-02-09, 04:13 PM   #14
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You don't have to spend ages, just EQ the vocal correctly once then save the settings in the plugin and apply to all vocal tracks.

Can you be a bit more specific "matt what do you do"?
with respect dude im sure your trying to help, i have patches saved etc and know how to EQ properly, but all takes are different, unless your singing perhaps but i wouldnt know as i dont sing. my question is on mics tho, not how or what to do in the studio.

you said you were a sound engineer to some extent......so asked what you do...as that could cover a rather large spectrum!
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Old 09-02-09, 04:21 PM   #15
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Some of the SE mic's are amazingly good for the money, ive used them lots of times with some great results, plus they are fairly well priced, may be worth looking into?
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Old 09-02-09, 04:21 PM   #16
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£100 wow thats tight.

My advice to you would be to consider upping that budget if you can. The reason I say this is the microphone is the most important aspect of recording or sound reinforcement. Its the first thing the soundwaves reach and that representation is the only thing you have to work with. The better the representation the better the outcome.

I have spoken to a friend of mine who is a quite a high profile Studio Engineer and from what you said instantly said Electrovoice RE20 (which was my first gut reaction however I don't have the experience in the studio to back it up with any real conviction) suffice to say it is a fantastic microphone which characteristically gives a rich and warm sound.
Unfortunately it is slightly out of your stated price range and if it doesn't suit you will be alot of money to find out.

As you said go and try some out, find a decent shop who will let you bring it back if you don't like it and swap it until you find the one you like, try them out in your studio as this will give you a much clearer picture and you will instantly know.

My other recommendation was the Audio Technica AT4033. This microphone is basically the much more expensive AT4050 model but without the dual diaphragm pic.
Also a great microphone.

Unfortunately I don't really use anything at the low end of the market so couldn't comment on all the £100 mark condensers that are out there.

Another thing I would say is for you to try the Shure beta58a instead of the SM58. It is a far superior microphone and may just be the little bit extra you need to make that type of microphone work for you in the studio. The beta model benefits from a higher frequency response than the SM up to 18k I believe and from my experience delivers 6db more than the standard at the same gain level so signal to noise ratio is much improved.
Just one thing though buy one from a proper shop as there are many many (very many) fakes knocking about.
And the beta58a is in your price range.

Hope this helps.
ah quality, i like the sound of the beta, may try this as i love the sm58 as a stage mic, cant justify spendage at the moment as moving house this year, so £100 is top really as will get close to this for the NT1-A, good advice, cheers Mr Spiers
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Old 09-02-09, 04:23 PM   #17
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this for example is a lovely mic.
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Old 09-02-09, 04:28 PM   #18
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this for example is a lovely mic.
nice one sounds good from reading that, dont know why but id always thought of usb mics when i thought of SE, will look into that one defo, cheers dude
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Old 09-02-09, 04:32 PM   #19
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lol yeah so did i until my mate lent me some of his mics, the reflection filter they sell is also great, you can record vocals almost anywhere and you dont get much nosie from the room, although it sounds like you have your room set up fine anyway.
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Old 09-02-09, 04:38 PM   #20
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Dappa- I work as a freelance live sound engineer and sometimes in the studio, mainly nowdays only working in the studio to do stuff for myself as I focus on live sound.

The SE2200a is a very good mic I have used it a few times for vocals and it sounds good.

What is the recording equipment you are using? from the mic to the (i'm assuming) digital storage medium?
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