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Old 10-01-08, 08:17 AM   #11
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I believe an animal should be allowed some quality of life before being killed, and that this should be done with respect for the animal.
what he said, besides the fact that farming animals intensively means they tend to taste crap anyway, if you're going to kill something for food then do it as quickly as possible with the least amount of suffering

that said, i don't think seeing my food being prepared from little critter to steaks on my plate would put me off at all, i've shot ickle fluffy bunnies myself, watched them die, then being skinned, then enjoyed eating them, anyone who can't stand the reality of meat and yet eats it is surely being a bit hypocritical?
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Old 10-01-08, 08:27 AM   #12
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Yep, what he said!

Very good program, i watched last years series too. Its interesting to know what goes on and how much more humanely the animals are supposedly treated here as opposed to around other parts of europe.

If you eat meat you should watch things like this to appreciate what time, skill and effort has gone into putting the meat into the nice packaging we see in supermarkets!

It also opens your eyes to new meats that you may not have tried before, for instance ive never had veal or suckling pig but would defo try them now
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Old 10-01-08, 09:13 AM   #13
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Haven't we always tried to dissassociate the meat we eat from the animal.

The more similar the animal is to us ie mammals, the greater the dissassociation is in the langauge we use. Pork, Beef, Mutton, Veal, Venison. Yet for Fish and Birds we tend to use the animal name.

I fail to see the need for a programme to be so graphic.
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Old 10-01-08, 12:16 PM   #14
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Haven't we always tried to dissassociate the meat we eat from the animal.

The more similar the animal is to us ie mammals, the greater the dissassociation is in the langauge we use. Pork, Beef, Mutton, Veal, Venison. Yet for Fish and Birds we tend to use the animal name.

I fail to see the need for a programme to be so graphic.
If there's nothing wrong with the processes used to provide meat for the table, there's certainly no reason why anyone should complain that people can be shown it.
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Old 10-01-08, 12:35 PM   #15
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Haven't we always tried to dissassociate the meat we eat from the animal.

The more similar the animal is to us ie mammals, the greater the dissassociation is in the langauge we use. Pork, Beef, Mutton, Veal, Venison. Yet for Fish and Birds we tend to use the animal name.

I fail to see the need for a programme to be so graphic.
Actions speak louder than words sometimes.

For people who don't even know where places like argentina, Dubai etc are in the world because of their ignorence, this will open their eyes.

Thing is, the British are happy to eat the meat, but don't want any part of knowing where it came from.

I must admit, its not something i'd want to watch, i love my animals, but then I also realise that meat IS meat, and below us in the food chain. Animals have, and always will be food. Its life. I watched a goats throat being slit on one of Michael Palins world trips (tibett mountines or something) and the goat was killed, drained, cooked and eaten there. You can't refuse, it would be rude to the tribe.

I think a goats throat was also slit on Long Way Down i remember. It made me like "ewww" but then how else are you meant to do it? Slip it a sleepy pill?

I feel, as long as the animal doesn't suffer, and has a good quality of life before being made to be my dinner.
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Old 10-01-08, 01:01 PM   #16
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Its designed to turn more perfectly normal people into stinking hippies. Ive growen my own pigs from being diddy little babys up to full size animals and then slit there throats and eaten them. I happily go shooting for phesents, pigeons and rabbits and grew my own goose and duck for christmas dinner this year. I like meat, have no problem slauttering it and vehimently oppose vegetarians. I dont mind if you dont like the taste but not eating because of the "poor little animals" is rubbish as far as im concerned.

The object of the show to put on the spot as to do you want to eat this you heathen have just seen all the pain and suffering that deffensles little pet has gone through is just obscene. I remember when hugh fernly-whittingstall took those veggies and people who ate crap to his farm and made them shoot birds and learn how to prepare and then eat them left all of them being happy eating meat. It appears the object of this show is to make people scared of meat but then i cant say ive actually seen it but it will be on my download list as soon as i get home.
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Old 10-01-08, 01:19 PM   #17
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Every time you eat meat, something has to die.
yep. thems the breaks
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Old 10-01-08, 01:19 PM   #18
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Actions speak louder than words sometimes.

I feel, as long as the animal doesn't suffer, and has a good quality of life before being made to be my dinner.
+1.

I don't think I'd particularly want to watch it, but I do think it would be very educational. People like to turn a blind eye to what happens 'behind the scenes' and if a programme like this is whats needed to open their eyes to the facts then so be it.

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I like meat, have no problem slauttering it and vehimently oppose vegetarians. I dont mind if you dont like the taste but not eating because of the "poor little animals" is rubbish as far as im concerned.
I eat meat, I think totally banning it from the human diet is not healthy, we were designed to eat it and have done for years, but having lived with vegetarians and vegans I can see their point of view - it's up to them what they want to eat at the end of the day.
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Old 10-01-08, 02:27 PM   #19
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I remember when hugh fernly-whittingstall took those veggies and people who ate crap to his farm and made them shoot birds and learn how to prepare and then eat them left all of them being happy eating meat. It appears the object of this show is to make people scared of meat but then i cant say ive actually seen it but it will be on my download list as soon as i get home.
To my mind, the purpose of this show is not to put people off eating meat at all, but to highlight just how far removed the mechanical process that is meat farming for supermarket shelves really is from the sort of thing you highlight above.
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