Smoking toddler

y would she have known he smoked... ?

She smokes so the place and her kid will smell of it, he has a habbit of doing it in secret.. Its not right, but I cant help belive that she genuinly might have been so thick as to not put two & two together.... and made 4...?

Originally Posted by Messie

Yes I think you're missing the point. Why should the child have to go through the distress of losing his Mother as well as everything else.?
The Mother appears to be making great efforts to improve her parenting skills. And I'm sure she's be well watched (as far as they are able) the the Social Services

Agreed. Besides, picking up a smoking habit would be nothing compared to the harm he'd endure in care.

Its just wrong....

Sounds like she is doing everything she can to be a better parent since the incident. You just don't know - interesting comment about the fags though, wonder if we are going to start taking cakes and pizza off fat people who have fat children.

Of course it's abhorrent a child smoking, but she's seemingly learned her lesson and has supervision and sensible enough friends - who taped the incident and reported it!

Originally Posted by 454697819

y would she have known he smoked... ?

She smokes so the place and her kid will smell of it, he has a habbit of doing it in secret.. Its not right, but I cant help belive that she genuinly might have been so thick as to not put two & two together.... and made 4...?

I think that's entirely possible.

Originally Posted by shonadoll

...wonder if we are going to start taking cakes and pizza off fat people who have fat children.

...and deep fat fryers!

We should do - there is no excuse for the number of overweight kids I see.

[anna]

I cant help thinking that friends might first of all have brought this to the attention of the mother first rather then involve social services. If that failed to stop the problem then notify social services?
I say the above because I´ve had bad experiances with social services and wouldnt trust them to do the right thing with a toilet brush.

Originally Posted by anna

I cant help thinking that friends might first of all have brought this to the attention of the mother first rather then involve social services. If that failed to stop the problem then notify social services?
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I was going to say this but you beat me to it.

Im not condoning that fact that she allowed this to happen (through ignorance by the sounds of it), but sure her 'friends' could have tried telling her to get her act together first?

Originally Posted by ArtyLady

but sure her 'friends' could have tried telling her to get her act together first?

Maybe they did. At least the mother is getting her act together now and trying to improve her parenting skills etc..Whether that will last we don't know but it is still better than the child being seperated from her and being carted from foster home to foster home.

This reminds me of something I read in my local paper. A couple had their newborn baby taken away from them (by social services) 4 years ago because the father was accussed (but never arressted / charged / found guilty) of assaulting his son from a previous marriage. Obviously we dont know the full story but they have been battling for 4 years to get their child back. Yet you hear of cases like baby P where it takes social services ages to get their act together when a child truly is at great risk of harm and death.

Nobody with a video camera or mobile phone is coming into our house