Job/Career advice

Originally Posted by SoulKiss

Well I guess I also owe you an apology for misunderstanding your meaning

Thats ok, you wouldnt be the first, looking at my first post i didnt explain it very well

as soulkiss said. stick out the E2E, if an employer sees it on your CV they should, if they know that you are doing the work for minimal money etc, see you as someone committed to working and employers (public sector excluded) generally like to employ those sorts of people.

I've read through all of your points and posts everyone and appreciate them all.

As of now I've stopped going to this free labour thing but I'm still on the course at the moment, I just go in more often instead of going to work.

As just a few points of clarification for those that don't know what the E2E thing is -

The E2E course is basically you gain "work experience" by working for £30 a week for a minimum of 16 hours (normally though this is a minimum, suggested is 30). After a few weeks you invariably learn exactly what you're doing and do it unguided, doing the same job as everyone else.. You're not learning anything else and you work just as hard (if not harder) than the employees that are getting paid. You go into the center one day a week normally, and it's nothing I don't already know. Nets of shape, English skills and the like. I find it insulting to my intelligence personally. I get no formal qualifications from doing it and I only have gotten a health and safety thing (big wow)

I've been on it since July last year. I found an apprenticeship in a motorcycle dealership but that didn't work out and I went back on it.

Anyway, ideally I'd like a job in the motorcycle industry (obviously) or in the IT sector. But whatever I do I'd love to be able to get training to NVQ levels etc.

To soulkiss, seriously I am not a lazy worker and it's not I can't be bothered.. :/

I am physically tired of working and yet receiving no reward. I can't go out much with my friends and I can't buy anything I want/need.

I hope there can be other points brought forward to give me something else to think about.

My only other thought with the E2E thing is use it for what it is = learning. If you arent learning anything its a waste of time hanging about there.

[G]

You are a mere whipper snapper,

Experience is considerably more valuable than money.

Take what you will from that......in 5 years time you may have stuck at it, got a skill, and become very good at what you do and may be able to demand a high price for what you do.....you may even be able to start your own company and take on essentially free labour and train people like yourself while making a fortune.

Or in 5 years time you may still be quiting every job after about a week because your fed up and bored, you will be on minimum wage or worse still claiming job seekers.

You have 2 choices and you need to make up which way you want your life to go, no one else can do that for you.

[Dave20046]

Originally Posted by Jamiebridges123

I've read through all of your points and posts everyone and appreciate them all.

As of now I've stopped going to this free labour thing but I'm still on the course at the moment, I just go in more often instead of going to work.

As just a few points of clarification for those that don't know what the E2E thing is -

The E2E course is basically you gain "work experience" by working for £30 a week for a minimum of 16 hours (normally though this is a minimum, suggested is 30). After a few weeks you invariably learn exactly what you're doing and do it unguided, doing the same job as everyone else.. You're not learning anything else and you work just as hard (if not harder) than the employees that are getting paid. You go into the center one day a week normally, and it's nothing I don't already know. Nets of shape, English skills and the like. I find it insulting to my intelligence personally. I get no formal qualifications from doing it and I only have gotten a health and safety thing (big wow)

I've been on it since July last year. I found an apprenticeship in a motorcycle dealership but that didn't work out and I went back on it.

Anyway, ideally I'd like a job in the motorcycle industry (obviously) or in the IT sector. But whatever I do I'd love to be able to get training to NVQ levels etc.

To soulkiss, seriously I am not a lazy worker and it's not I can't be bothered.. :/

I am physically tired of working and yet receiving no reward. I can't go out much with my friends and I can't buy anything I want/need.

I hope there can be other points brought forward to give me something else to think about.

sounds all too familiar.
Go with your gut feeling, not a whim, and don't put up with **** and false hopes from employers. I'm very wary of companies offering the slave labour/nvq trade off.

Yeah Dave frankly I'm only going to do at the most a week or two or "work experience" again, and likely that'd be only on a trial period..

As long as I get paid I don't mind working like a slave. But the money has to be there, even if it's £5 per hour..

Originally Posted by G

You are a mere whipper snapper,

Experience is considerably more valuable than money.

I do agree and see where you're coming from.

Or in 5 years time you may still be quiting every job after about a week because your fed up and bored, you will be on minimum wage or worse still claiming job seekers.

To be fair I've been with the company I've just left since January. Before that I worked at Halfrauds bikehut under the same scheme for 3 and a half months.

You have 2 choices and you need to make up which way you want your life to go, no one else can do that for you.

At the moment I just want enough so I can get some parts for my bike (wavey disks new hugger etc) and then in a couple of years upgrade to a Street Triple with everything on it.. I don't have a problem doing any job so long as I'm paid for it.. if I was offered a place in a Supermarket for christ sakes I'd do it.

As said I'd like a job that gives me some sort of career progression, or at the very least allows me to take training as part of it, eg a weeks course for an NVQ in whatever.. I can't be picky at the moment, money is money.


I was applying for a job before but literally as I was coming home from my friends house after having updated my CV and written a covering letter, I then had my nasty accident on my Z750. I'm 95% sure I would have gotten that job as well... But that's life unfortunately. Right time wrong place as they say. I've rang up a couple of places in the paper and the positions have already been filled.. I'll keep doing that till I find something I guess. But yeah I'm looking for something a bit more long term..

Dude I understand what saying, however its easier to find work when your working, thats from my experince....

I'm not a huge classroom person I hate being talked at (I sat in meeing being talked at for 3 hours, I was bored stiff), so maybe a more pratical career sounds like you? Look at doing a courses around what works for you, I managed to get a degree but mine was based alot round pratical work and research.

So get yourself a sheet of paper, write down likes and dislikes on either on side. Then write down on either side what you like doing, or not doing then start thinking what jobs would work with that. Then build up your education and expereince around that.

You need to work to your strenghs play on them and make your weakness a strengh. I will never beable to do maths no matter what I see the dam numbers backwards!

I wouldn't worry about putting bling on yer bike, I have never owned a new car, I was 27 before I could afford a new bike.

Look at this way, your young it make take a few years to work where you want to be, just don't get stuck in a trap doing a job just for money, the benfits ect.

As for deadlines ect, dependng on what you do for a job there are loads of em, mine is ruled by that. Then you have to make you loan and bills payments, I can't say err I forgot to pay the bike loan this month, cause they may decided to take it back if I don't pay for it.

As my more wiser friends have said, expereince is something you gain, you can't buy it!

In the end its your life, we can only make suggestions based on our own experinces. You only get one go at this, so make yourself happy and go for it Your clealy an intelligent person, believe in yourself.

[jamesterror]

College mate, I considered getting a job (I got offered one full time with the DWP 24k a year) but I decided college instead, qualifications may get you a bit further and better pay hopefully.

Your same age as me, as much as it sucks to be in education, and I will be for another 4 years, it'll be worth it in the end you have to keep telling yourself it.

Its difficult for me as I have a 2 close mates who earn 10x what I earn a month, its horrible haha.

Originally Posted by jamesterror

College mate, I considered getting a job (I got offered one full time with the DWP 24k a year) but I decided college instead, qualifications may get you a bit further and better pay hopefully.

Your same age as me, as much as it sucks to be in education, and I will be for another 4 years, it'll be worth it in the end you have to keep telling yourself it.

Its difficult for me as I have a 2 close mates who earn 10x what I earn a month, its horrible haha.

Not for everyone, some people do far better out of education, some people learn better on the job we are learn differntly. My mom doesn't have a degree but did good and is well paid. The key is finding is what is right for you and also what kind of life do you want lead?