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Old 01-12-09, 04:14 PM   #11
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I would be interested to see photographs of the area he parks in, just to put it into context.
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Old 01-12-09, 04:23 PM   #12
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Maybe it is his land and maybe it isn't - my point is that if there is a question over it then he could have saved himself and others a lot of time and money by parking elsewhere and awaiting confirmation that he could park there. He may feel he has a right to park there, and maybe he should have a right to park there, but sheer bloody-mindedness has earned him a large bill for fines, therefore I have no sympathy.

Regarding scratches on bikes, I have seen many bike bays in and around London and understand what you mean, but from what I've seen people know their bikes will get scuffed up and therefore own older bikes that they are not worried about, I'm sure this chap is the same.
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Old 01-12-09, 04:30 PM   #13
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ONly in England eh!
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Old 01-12-09, 04:33 PM   #14
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Maybe it is his land and maybe it isn't
No its quite clearly is his land in the same way as your front garden is clearly your land. Would you not fight it if some jobsworth stuck a ticket on your vehicle when you had parked it in your front garden? Course you would!
This is the issue. Camden are taking away from him what is his and claiming it to be theirs only to raise some more money. If the fella is actually obstructing the pathway then fair enough but the fact that Camden have squashed some of his tickets as the article says means to me that he has been right to park there and Camden have conceded that on more then one occasion.

Also your assumption of his bike being one of the old ones etc...big leap to make there isnt it mate? I have one form of transport, my bike. And its my pride and joy. I'm sure as a doctor he probably owns a car too but i dont know that for a fact. All i know is he is being penalised for nothing. Its legalised mugging imo.
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Old 01-12-09, 05:03 PM   #15
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Spidey, how is it 'clearly his land'- he say's it is and the council says it isn't, according to the article. It also refers to the land as a pavement, which pedestrians can use. If it is 100% definitive that he owns all of the land then of course it is stupid ge is being fined for parking there, but given that it is used as a pavement and therefore a public right of way that is not clear is it?

Regarding his bike, they refer to it as a scooter that is used to nip out to see patients and is quite happy to leave in the middle of the pavement, do you think it would be a minter / his pride and joy?!

All I'm saying is if it was me, if I believed I owned the land but knew I would get fined if I parked there, I would not park there and would contest the issue through the official means rather than racking up a load of fines on the off chance they'd be overturned.
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Old 01-12-09, 05:22 PM   #16
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... if I believed I owned the land but knew I would get fined if I parked there, I would not park there and would contest the issue through the official means rather than racking up a load of fines on the off chance they'd be overturned.
Are you serious?!! if I owned the land I'd continue parking there and fight my corner! how dare they tell him he can't park on his own land
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Old 01-12-09, 05:26 PM   #17
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Yes I'm serious- there's no way I'd risk £10,000 rather than walk a few yards to my scooter...
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Old 01-12-09, 05:30 PM   #18
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This is where I don't understand English law! This wouldn't happen up here!
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This is where I don't understand English law! This wouldn't happen up here!
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Old 01-12-09, 05:32 PM   #20
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It's a confusing one. We don't have such a thing as trespass, and land laws are different.
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