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Old 27-02-10, 08:27 AM   #11
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Knowing where the drain that the stack leads to would be useful..
The soil stack enters the ground at the side of the house and the runs for almost the entire length of my 100ft garden to the main sewer, all of which is downhill,
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Old 27-02-10, 08:31 AM   #12
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Most new builds now are inner soil stacks, theres nothing wrong with it, as skeetly said leave where it is if poss.
Getting the correct run is crucial, our building inspectors are quite lenient, i know there are regs about runs and access / rodding points but they will let you get away with some as long as 90% is ok.
I find drainage easy, i hate the digging to expose the existing, cant stand digging, especially clay soil.
I already have a rodding point half way down my garden. This was put in 2 years ago by the previous owner.

I want to move the stack as I feel it would add more value to have the garage level with the front of the house than if I stepped it back 2 meters.

Most of the ground beside my house will need to be dug up when I build my garage anyway, so I'm thinking about just renewing the pipe while I'm there and moving the soil stack forwards.

You'd hate digging here as it's mostly clay soil!
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Old 27-02-10, 05:37 PM   #13
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Just a thought, are you intending to move the toilet as well as the stack? Or are you just going to run a 4" pipe 2 metres along the wall?
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Old 28-02-10, 09:43 AM   #14
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Wont be moving the toilets, just the soil stack. Not sure on the regs side of things if your allowed to slope/kink a soil stack or if they have to be perfectly vertical. One of my toilets would be further than 2 metres away from the stack if I move it, but I wasn't sure if I could angle the soil stack, or indeed the pipe from the soil stack to the toilet.
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Old 28-02-10, 11:36 AM   #15
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Wont be moving the toilets, just the soil stack. Not sure on the regs side of things if your allowed to slope/kink a soil stack or if they have to be perfectly vertical. One of my toilets would be further than 2 metres away from the stack if I move it, but I wasn't sure if I could angle the soil stack, or indeed the pipe from the soil stack to the toilet.
Everything you need and have to know:

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/upl...F_ADH_2002.pdf

I've never felt that any of these regulations are particularly over the top.
If you find yourself unable to do it like it says in the reg's than chances are it will bite you on the ar*e later on.

HTH.

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Old 28-02-10, 07:31 PM   #16
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+1 for leaving it where it is and boxing it in if you can.

4 inch pipe and brackets, boxed in will take next to nothing out of the size of the room.
For the cost of materials, time and effort, it's really not worth the hastle in the long run.
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Old 28-02-10, 10:21 PM   #17
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It will be outside the house, going to inside the garage, this will be the awkward bit. I'm not building a second storey yet, just a garage. I would rather move it if I can.
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Old 28-02-10, 10:36 PM   #18
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Everything you need and have to know:

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/upl...F_ADH_2002.pdf

I've never felt that any of these regulations are particularly over the top.
If you find yourself unable to do it like it says in the reg's than chances are it will bite you on the ar*e later on.

HTH.
That may as well be written in German! Do you have a gobbledegook to layman translator? lol
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Old 28-02-10, 10:39 PM   #19
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Here's the pic of the soils stack. I want it moved to the front of the house. The drain runs down the side of the building, between the building and the car.



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Old 28-02-10, 10:49 PM   #20
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if you make a double extension (second floor as well) you could run the pipe from the toilet under the floor of the extension and move the stack to the outside of the extension which would save having to route the pipe from the toilet any other way since you cant drill a 4" hole for it through joists (if there in your way for running it to the front of the house) and the stack stays "hidden" down the side of the house as well. This is only possible if the width of the extension is larger than the length.

The extra building work is easy enough even if you dont plan on building in there for few years to save building the garage waterproofing the roof, then taking it off when you plan on putting the second floor in. its all can be done cheaply if you give me a bed to sleep in while i do it, and find a good bricky, roofer and plummer. Im free in Sept and can do all the other work (or know a guy willing to travel that far).

Edit: looking at them pics it is possible my way and i can move the soil pips not the water tho i always leave them leaky.

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