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Old 17-03-10, 06:58 AM   #11
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but not exactly dangerous
Maybe nothing dangerous happened in your case, but if your engine cuts in the fast lane of a busy motorway, and you can't restart it whilst rolling with the clutch in, you either come to a stop there, or work your way across three lanes of traffic to get to the hard shoulder, whilst constantly slowing down against a flow of dozy cage drivers who are still half asleep?

I played with mine for a while to learn how it works, and mine (K6) cuts the engine and the FI light comes on and the engine can't be started again until the ignition has been off for at least two seconds, flick the key off and on without waiting and the FI light is still flashing, which is what most folk would do in a panic on a motorway. I reckon the fastest my engine could possibly be restarted, is about 3-4 seconds and that's if you knew what the problem was, was expecting it, knew that you had to wait for it to clear, etc, etc

If you ask me it could be very dangerous, and if it can do it whilst upright on a motorway, and gravity is not helping, centrifugal force won't help you in corners either.
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Old 17-03-10, 07:03 AM   #12
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I think the tilt switches can be more or less anywhere on the bike (for the reasons explained in above posts). On the 700 Deauville it's up near the headlamp I believe.
The length of the wiring coming out of the loom, kind of restricts where you can put it on the SV, but yes, by design it could go anywhere, so long as it it the right way up. I tested it quite a few times to make sure it works if mounted longitudinally rather than being mounted across the bike, and it's now secured longitudinally to the frame on the left hand side of the battery.
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Old 17-03-10, 08:35 AM   #13
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It really needs to go across the bike in the orientation that it originally had.
Fitted as you have it hard acceleration or heavy braking can cause it to cut the motor.
This is exactly the elusive problem I discovered after someone brought me a bike, (not an SV), that was cutting out intermittently, the sensor had been fitted to the bike in the way you describe after an undertray had been fitted.
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Old 17-03-10, 09:08 AM   #14
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I did the same when swapping my fairings on the 600rr. It's either on the right way or upside down. I had put everything back on before realising... Lots of swearing ensued.

I am always very very cautious of your average amature mechanic. Some may well be very very skilled... Alot are just cheap and don't want to spend cash.
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Old 17-03-10, 09:31 AM   #15
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Once bitten twice shy as they say. Thank goodness you realised!
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Old 17-03-10, 09:42 AM   #16
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Tis how we learn mate. At least you got to it before it got to you!
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Old 17-03-10, 09:55 AM   #17
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Similar problem to the old Pan when I first got it - dodgy tilt sensor meant it used to cut out when it banked over too far. The problem being that this tended to be just as I was pulling out for an overtake - NOT a good place to suddenly loose all power!

Sorted now, replaced the sensor but it made for some exciting rides for a while (exciting in the same way that being shot at, is exciting!).
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Old 17-03-10, 10:01 AM   #18
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Excellent post. Didn't even realise this type of device was fitted, thanks for the info.
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Maybe nothing dangerous happened in your case, but if your engine cuts in the fast lane of a busy motorway, and you can't restart it whilst rolling with the clutch in, you either come to a stop there, or work your way across three lanes of traffic to get to the hard shoulder, whilst constantly slowing down against a flow of dozy cage drivers who are still half asleep?

If you ask me it could be very dangerous, and if it can do it whilst upright on a motorway, and gravity is not helping, centrifugal force won't help you in corners either.
I spose it could be dangerous if it was unexpected at an unlucky moment. After the first occurrence, I rode accordingly.

If it's loose, it's bumps and things that tend to make it rattle about and cut out, rather than smooth corners. Centrifugal forces don't really apply on a bike as the forces are always acting vertically with respect to the bike.
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